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A quick bit of background, I currently ride a 10' Triumph Thunderbird. Love the bike, lots of power, smooth, handles great, but I am looking for something more of a tourer as a second bike.

So far I have rode a Rocket III Touring (didnt like engine feel and bulk) and a Goldwing F6B. (no ABS or cruise control, wtf Honda?)

Comfort, power and all the amenities are on my list of main priorities. I looked at the Cross Country as well as the Vision. Really thought the Vision was over the top ugly, but it was the most comfortable to sit on so I took it for a ride. Here were my impressions:

#1. Wow, what a comfortable bike! Seat was awesome, floorboard design was awesome (I am 6'5 300 lbs, never been able to stretch out on a bike before like on the Vision)

#2. Wind mitigation was great and super smooth ride. Definately a 2 wheeled Cadillac.

#3. Power was... adequate. Maybe i'm just spoiled from my Thunderbird, but I was hoping for a bit more grunt.

#4. WTF Victory, the throttle was horrible. Did noone from the factory actually ride this bike before putting it on the market? Having to adjust your hand a second time to roll on full throttle is just plain stupid. I have big-ass hands and there was simply too much travel in the throttle to be usable.

#5.My biggest WTF Victory, is with the HEAT. At a light, my triumph will put some heat on you when the fans kick in, so im used to a little heat. The Vision however, is nuts. This thing baked the crap out of my calves while riding on the freeway. There is NO air moment behind those big swoopy plastics. Again, horrible, horrible design that I cant believe left the factory like that. I can live with some heat (am in Florida also btw) in traffic, but on the road? No way.

Had the last two items not been present, I probably would of bought the bike right then and there based on how comfortable it was, weird looks be damned.

I was told by the salesperson that the Cross Country is basically the identical bike under the skin with essentially just different plastics... any truth to that? I didnt get a chance to ride one was a little put off by those few nagging things about the Vision, but am thinking I should go back and take one for a spin nonetheless. Any thoughts on this?
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If your cats should happen to fall out the bike will get a lot cooler. Also, only open the lowers an inch or so.
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Victorys are (and I'll get nailed for this I'm sure) like Harley in that respect. One motor, many bikes. They all have the same 106 Freedom engine. Indians use the same design just bigger displacement.

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If your cats should happen to fall out the bike will get a lot cooler. Also, only open the lowers an inch or so.
"lowers"? OK so maybe i'm half blind, but when I looked I saw no adjustable air vents or diverters on the bike.... It was a 13 Vision.
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Victorys are (and I'll get nailed for this I'm sure) like Harley in that respect. One motor, many bikes. They all have the same 106 Freedom engine. Indians use the same design just bigger displacement.

On my triumph, doing pipes and a remap made it sound better and gave it a bit better throttle response, but no real dyno HP boost. Only way to get more real power out of it was a big bore kit and hotter cams, and I wasnt really very keen on doing internal engine work on a bike with only 3k miles.

Are there any reasonably affordable tweaks to squeeze some extra power out of these Freedom motors without opening them up?
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I do the same thing on every bike I own:
-inatke
-Power Commander
-exhaust

The usual bolt on performance stuff. I did the adjustable timing wheel on my bike too but noticed no real difference in anything after installing it. But a lot of people here swear it makes the bike feel different so who knows.

Oh yeah, I did the quarter turn throttle. It's $20 and makes a huge difference. I had the same complaint you did.

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Simply adding Lloydz adjustable air filter, mufflers, and Power commander will bump the performance into the "I love this bike" sector, lol. And the bike you rode probably did not have lowers. They are an option, but WELL worth the few dollars to ad them. They will divert fresh air directly onto the motor at speed, with them open.

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Simply adding Lloydz adjustable air filter, mufflers, and Power commander will bump the performance into the "I love this bike" sector, lol. And the bike you rode probably did not have lowers. They are an option, but WELL worth the few dollars to ad them. They will divert fresh air directly onto the motor at spees, with them open.
Aha, so these lowers can be added on? Any links to pics of these?
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Aha, got it. I assume these draw air in and onto your legs? I'm also assuming they have to make a big difference, as I just couldnt see riding the bike any kind of distance in warm weather stock. I dont ride in shorts anyways even on hot days, but I can see this thing singing the hair right off your legs! lol
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