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post #1 of 18 (permalink) Old 02-17-2014, 10:07 PM Thread Starter
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Looks like Consumer Reports has thrown their 2 cents in. The article linked is NOT the report- it's a paraphrasing of the report. It sounded more like a collection of trouble reports and surveys, not qualified riders doing real world testing & evaluation. If anyone has the real report maybe link it or paste it? Guess who was EXCLUDED completely from the survey?

CR does about as good a job rating most items as can be, I guess. They sure aren't as neutral as they love to preach, though. Their snarky take on sports cars and pickup trucks always came across as arrogant to me. I doubt anyone up there could competently grade a MC seat with those broomsticks shoved so deeply in their asses either... but nevertheless. ..


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Intresting find ...

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The author's opening sentence got a chuckle out of me. I was surprised to see Honda land below Kawasaki for reliability, especially considering the VN1700 issues they seem to be having.

Now, my real question is whether CR really thinks Victory hasn't made a significant dent in market share or if they couldn't find enough Victory owners who'd had a problem to bother adding another value to their graph

I'm sure it's the former rather than the latter, but we can all pretend otherwise for fun.

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Yeah I was puzzled by that too. I'm not sure of the window of time studied here, but I would suspect that if they are going to do this annually, that Ma Vic would probably not be exempt on the next round.

I *thought* I read somewhere where Vic had experienced quite a jump in sales not too long ago, so if I'm right they should be able to collect enough info pretty soon.

Like my audits here at work.. you guys looking over sh** we did 6-8 months ago? Srsly?

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Vic is a tiny fraction of the production of any of those other manufacturers. Consumer Reports is about reporting for the masses, not for specialty buyers like we are. The entire sample was just a bit over 4000 people reporting on their experiences. If Vic had been included we would be seeing a rating by far less Vic owners than there are active on this forum. Do you really want that to be the entire sample they use to rate a bike?

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I wasn't complaining about anything regarding the exclusion of Victory.

Like I said I think the majority of their methods are sound. I just think that anyone who disses sportcars because of the substandard backseat legroom, pickup trucks because.. well just because they are arrogant dorks who don't like pickup trucks probably shouldn't waste time rating them. And Velveeta- my GOD they trashed Velveeta!! Move! just move away! All your clipboards and calculators are belong to us!!!

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I ruminated on this a bit yesterday. I find and interesting topic and I'll turn it over in my mind for hours.

Triumph and Ducati were also not represented. Surely they have enough units on the road for analysis.

Don't get me wrong, I don't see Consumer Reports as the be-all end-all of product review. I find their automotive reviews to be a little...shall we say...Toyota-centric. But they provide good information. I'm curious as to why they'd leave out a couple major international manufacturers. Or if they were simply not included in the article overview...?

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Consumer Reports seems pretty informative until they do reviews on a type of product you are actually familiar with. Then you quickly realize that they have no idea what the heck they're talking about.

I remember back in my bicycling days, they did a review on mountain bikes. The recommended the recall of a particular model because applying the front brakes too forcefully could cause the rider to be thrown over the handlebars. Seriously? And I'm sure we all remember the fatal blow they delivered to the Suzuki Samurai...

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CR if you have not figured it out are paid for their review. Always have been. Will they admit it? Hell no. But the lobbies are there.

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I recall years ago when I worked for a high end stereo store the owner told me, "Bose sued CR for an unfavorable review". At the time I used to sell a ton of Paradigm shelf speakers when I did an A/B comparison to the Bose satellite speakers. The Bose sound like crap, but since they sued CR there was always a favorable review after that.

I have worked for a few MC dealers as a service writer and I can tell you this. Ducati had more warranty claims than Suzuki/Kawasaki/Triumph/Enfield/SeaDoo combined for that particular dealer. Triumph's fell apart regularly. Ducati would take a month off in the summer so we could not get parts.

I had tour guides tell me HD's would constantly need attention and it is was mostly the stators. All my HD friends complain about there bikes.

My father in law lemon lawed a brand new $120k BMW 750. His current vehicle still has issues. BMW mechanic said he loves his job since there is so much work on that brand.

I don't know of a dealer around here that I would trust my Vic with. God help me if I need warranty work. The dealer I bought it from did little to no dealer prep since I got to the stop light when I realized the front rotor was warped.

I guess we all have something to complain about...

Guess I got off on a tangent. Sorry
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