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I tested a Vision before I purchased my XCT. I found the bike big and cumbersome.
Since then I have put 31,000 km on my XCT.

Today I took my wife's V Star 650 to my Vic dealer to get a new inspection sticker. While I was there I took out a 2014 Vision for a test ride. I been wanting to compare the XCT to the Vision now that I am familiar with the weight and size of the Victory's.

First off I felt like I was sitting a mile from the front of the bike.
Second the seat was much nicer than my XCT. You sit in a pocket that supports your lower spine.

When I pulled out of the parking lot I noticed the Vision has much lighter steering feel. And low speed or walking speed riding was very easy with none of the issues my XCT gives me.

The motor was tight and very quiet. I had to listen very hard to hear the roller rockers. My XCT top end noise is very very loud. The gear box had a minor clunk but rev matching made that quiet and very high quality sounding.

The bike handled a lot better than my XCT. Hands down a better bike when you compare motor racket, shifting harshness and handling.

Now usually when you jump on a bike that your not familiar with you compare it to your bike and think of all the things your bike does or feels better at.
This was not the case with the Vision.

Those of you that have read my posts know I have been harsh with Victory in the past. And I always tell it like it is. I don't brag how good something is just because I own it.

Bottom line.
This Vision was an amazing bike to ride. There was a strange quality feel to it. Now it did have 2100 km on it and it's been pounded on by a bunch of testers and still felt great.
I rode the back roads and over rough section and took it on the highway. It pulled like a freight train from 2k up to 4500. The motor didn't make any bad noises. The shifting while rev matching worked and sounded completely different from my XCT. It had a tight and quality feel. The top end tick was barely noticeable.

I wanted to trade right there on the spot. What a difference having the fairing mounted on the frame.

I can't tell you guys how much I was impressed by this bike. I want it..


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As much as I love my XC I still always walk over to the Vision every time I visit my dealer at Best Buy Ft Pierce. Its all black and its a beauty. I did notice that it was considerably harder to get her off the kickstand than my XC and than previous Visions that I had ridden. I wonder if they are using a shorter side stand this year. Easy enough to fix. Still I'm with you I like it and wouldn't mind having it. The best in 2 up riding hands down. Just wish they would redesign it a little as far as the swoopy trunk and the lack of side bag room. Then I would consider it as the next ride.

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I rode five different vision before I bought mine. Two months after I had it I road a h-d and was so happy I bought the vision. After having the vision I road a CC on a test ride and it was OK but I felt the vision was a way better handling bike.

Keep in mind you were riding a brain new bike so yes it was quiet but after 2500 miles the lifters be just like yours. The tranie might stay quiet but you never know.

Can't wait to hear you trade in your bike but wait for the 2015

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If the Vision had had saddlebags big enough to put my wife's purse in I might have bought it. The lack of storage was so little that the thought of going on one of our trips two up was unbearable. But it sure handles sweet
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I loved mine! and will have another one day. i just need to finnish paying off my kingpin.

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I cant wait to see the changes coming up for all the touring platforms. You know they need to do it. It's time. The Vision was there signature bike and now the Cross series has taken over. The fixed frame mounted fairing is a winner and the reason these bike ride so well. A redesign is needed for storage. Otherwise I still like it a lot.

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I just clocked over three thousand miles since March 22nd. I completely agree with your findings about the Vision. Now at almost eight thousand miles total on this 106 engine I can tell you the lifters have only been noticeable during first test ride with Lloydz timing wheel. Four degree advance with 87 octane left in the tank was to blame. This bike loves 93 octane now. The handling and overall ease of operation was shocking compared to the 2000 Venture that I traded in. I ride to work everyday that weather allows and at the end of a long hard day I don't dread wrestling it up off of the side stand. Also I no longer need to wear the logging boots just to flatfoot at a stop. Until you have had a power windshield you have no idea how cool this really is. Victory could improve storage on a near perfect machine, but other than that there is no where to go up from here. When you ride a Vision you have arrived. Just my opinion, no regrets!

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I tested a Vision before I purchased my XCT. I found the bike big and cumbersome.
Since then I have put 31,000 km on my XCT.

Today I took my wife's V Star 650 to my Vic dealer to get a new inspection sticker. While I was there I took out a 2014 Vision for a test ride. I been wanting to compare the XCT to the Vision now that I am familiar with the weight and size of the Victory's.

First off I felt like I was sitting a mile from the front of the bike.
Second the seat was much nicer than my XCT. You sit in a pocket that supports your lower spine.

When I pulled out of the parking lot I noticed the Vision has much lighter steering feel. And low speed or walking speed riding was very easy with none of the issues my XCT gives me.

The motor was tight and very quiet. I had to listen very hard to hear the roller rockers. My XCT top end noise is very very loud. The gear box had a minor clunk but rev matching made that quiet and very high quality sounding.

The bike handled a lot better than my XCT. Hands down a better bike when you compare motor racket, shifting harshness and handling.

Now usually when you jump on a bike that your not familiar with you compare it to your bike and think of all the things your bike does or feels better at.
This was not the case with the Vision.

Those of you that have read my posts know I have been harsh with Victory in the past. And I always tell it like it is. I don't brag how good something is just because I own it.

Bottom line.
This Vision was an amazing bike to ride. There was a strange quality feel to it. Now it did have 2100 km on it and it's been pounded on by a bunch of testers and still felt great.
I rode the back roads and over rough section and took it on the highway. It pulled like a freight train from 2k up to 4500. The motor didn't make any bad noises. The shifting while rev matching worked and sounded completely different from my XCT. It had a tight and quality feel. The top end tick was barely noticeable.

I wanted to trade right there on the spot. What a difference having the fairing mounted on the frame.

I can't tell you guys how much I was impressed by this bike. I want it..

It's funny because I had the same exact experience that you just had with my brothers Vision. He has a 2011 Vision 8-ball and I have a 2011 XC. I just got done installing all the performances goodies on his Vision and spent a couple of weeks riding the Vision. I thought the same thing as you did. The Vision is just a nicer motorcycle than my Cross Country. The low speed handling was better, there was less unwanted engine noise, the seat is much better, the wind protection is better, and overall the bike is much more refined than my Cross Country. The Visions are phenomenal motorcycles and I came away very impressed.

But that being said, I'm not getting rid of my XC. The one thing that I don't like about the Vision is that the cockpit is much more compact than the XC's. For a normal sized person that isn't a problem but when your 6' 5" I really appreciate the additional room of the XC cockpit. Also, the Vision's saddle bags just aren't big enough for me.

But I'm a firm believer that the best value right now in the world of motorcycles is a used Vision. You just can't buy a bike that will do everything as well as a Vision.
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As much as I love my XC I still always walk over to the Vision every time I visit my dealer at Best Buy Ft Pierce. Its all black and its a beauty. I did notice that it was considerably harder to get her off the kickstand than my XC and than previous Visions that I had ridden. I wonder if they are using a shorter side stand this year. Easy enough to fix. Still I'm with you I like it and wouldn't mind having it. The best in 2 up riding hands down. Just wish they would redesign it a little as far as the swoopy trunk and the lack of side bag room. Then I would consider it as the next ride.
I have a feeling they will redesign. The Visions price has been lowered and sales are down since the XCT was brought to market.


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I rode five different vision before I bought mine. Two months after I had it I road a h-d and was so happy I bought the vision. After having the vision I road a CC on a test ride and it was OK but I felt the vision was a way better handling bike.

Keep in mind you were riding a brain new bike so yes it was quiet but after 2500 miles the lifters be just like yours. The tranie might stay quiet but you never know.

Can't wait to hear you trade in your bike but wait for the 2015
My XCT is a 2013. So I don't think the boss will go for a trade (yet)...
I couldn't believe how the Vision made my XCT feel real old.

The Vision felt so light at the bars and it fell into the turns like a light weight bike.


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Modified Heel Shifter
HID Low
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