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post #1 of 14 (permalink) Old 12-03-2011, 01:39 AM Thread Starter
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Question Anyone from Kingpin to Cross Bike?

i have a 2010 Kingpin with crash bars, mustang seats, winshield, saddlebags , etc... my setup was thinking on making a versatile bike, right now its my daily driver and i dont have a car, and i ride 2 or sometimes 3 times a week more than a 100 miles and daily around town like 18 miles plus. enough said, most of the time i feel that i need more cargo space, plus i am a big guy, and just me its ok, but when my girlfriend wants to ride i get a little unconfortable after a few miles. i have never had a bagger, just plain and simple cruisers.... my doubts are the next ones:

is there much difference in power?
what about handling?
beside the obvious more space and confort of the cross bikes what are the pros and cons?

thank you in advance! ride safe!!

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post #2 of 14 (permalink) Old 12-03-2011, 06:35 AM
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You should try and find the Victory Demo truck in your area and ride the cross country or the Viision. I have been to a couple of these events and have fallen in love with the cross country tour. Now I need to pay off my truck and get a little cash built back up in saving so I am probably 24 months out before I am riding my cross country

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I don't know what you're used to riding, but that would be a tough transition for me. I've always been drawn to more minimalist type cruisers like I have now (HB) or my previous HD Deuce. I completely understand the argument for more storage and comfort, but every time I've ridden one of those big touring type bikes I feel like I'm driving an oversized truck. Not saying it doesn't handle well, just comparing it to what I'm used to. I'd really suggest you go down and have a good long test drive on one of them to make sure you adapt well to it. I've done it several times and it just doesn't fit me or my riding style very well.

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It'd be a whole lot cheaper to put saddlebags on the Kingpin....

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I I've always been drawn to more minimalist type cruisers.....snip.... every time I've ridden one of those big touring type bikes I feel like I'm driving an oversized truck.
I have to agree.

I want to ride a MOTORCYCLE. If I wanted to be cradled in comfort, have heat, wind protection, crash protection, and listen to music... I'd be driving my truck.

Touring bikes are swell. But when you are NOT touring and you have to live with that bike every day, the swelling will go down quickly. I have a couple of friends who bought full blown touring bikes and rode them for a year or two... now they have plain old cruisers with just saddlebags. When asked they say they wanted to get back to the real motorcycle experience.

I spend a lot of time on a Goldwing that a friend owns. While I enjoy riding the bike and feel it's a really great motorcycle, I don't want to OWN IT. Ya know?

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I went from an 07 Kingpin Tour to a Cross country tour.
I am 6'2 and my wife is about 5'6. We ride mostly two up and the Kingpin was great unless you wanted to go away for more then a weekend. This was my first Victory.
We are planning week long or more trips next year so that was the main reason for upgrading.
You say your a big guy so I have to believe you would find any of the Cross bikes to have more room to stretch and more room for your wife compared to the Kingpin.
Power wise I don't think there is a huge difference. The Kingpin with the 100 is lighter and I always thought it moved out very well. The XCT with the 106 is not underpowered, but my seat of the pants feeling is that it does not feel as fast. The speedo says otherwise and I blame that on the fact that the 106 is more refined then the 100 in the Kingpin and the powerband is geared more for touring.
Handling is another story. The cross bikes are in a completely different league compared to the Kingpin. The XCT rides and handles to me like a plush sports car. Plenty of ground clearance. The whole package inspires confidence. Long fast sweepers are a joy and in the twisties it will surprise you. That being said it's still a 900 lb bike and around town you notice it. Gotta admit that these are my initial impressions of the bike. I picked it up Sept 30th and we had a freak sow storm on Oct 29th. The bike is now waiting for spring.
The best thing to do is go try one at your dealer or one of the fuel it trucks.
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Those of you "Assuming" that since the XC is a Touring inclinded bike and as such handles like a Pig, should ride one. The XC is an extremely nimble bike, you don't even realize you are riding an almost 900lb beast and forget about the bags and trunk once you are moving. The only time I notice that I have a big bike with all the extras is when duck walking it out of a parking spot, once rolling 5mph or 70mph the size goes away. IMHO

The bike has plenty of power, but it's not gonna rock your world with power and torque, if that is what you want stick with the raw cruisers and muscle bikes. But if you like comfort and enjoy performance then maybe the XC is for you

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I recently bought a 2011 Cross Roads yes they are a big bike and yes they do weigh quite a bit, but they are extremely well balanced and do not feel as heavy as the numbers suggest. My other bike is a Triumph Speedmaster (865cc) which I put over 70,000 miles on. When I first test road the Cross bikes I did not think I would like them. I am only 5'7" tall so it is a big bike for me. But when I found out the floor boards and foot controls were adjustable for my smaller size that pretty much sealed the deal. It is a big difference in bikes,the Triumph handles very well and is only 505-lbs stock. So this new XRs is 745-lbs. quite an increase in weight, but I figured what ever bike I got after the Triumph I would be installing saddle bags on so I figured the Cross bikes come with them already. They ride very nice with the rear air shock and they do handle very well. Another note I did give the Triumph Thunderbird a test ride after they came out. Triumph had there demo rides in town. I test rode the Thunderbird. It ran good,was balanced good the way I remember. The thing I was not impressed with is when I was test riding it I dragged the bike four seperate times during my test ride. I thought it drug to easily. I have yet to drag either the demo Victory I took out or the CrossRoads I bought. I know you can drag them,but I have not drug it yet with almost 1000 miles on it. The Thunderbird I was dragging the first time I rode it,which I did not care for. I know some people really love their Thunderbirds so that is good for them. I hope I continue to enjoy my CrossRoads after I have many more miles on it. I think I will.
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I recently bought a Cross Roads also. As you can see from the bikes I've riden below, this is the first "cruiser" type bike I've owned. I did the Victory demo ride thing and rode the Kingpin, Cross Roads, and Cross Country. I had a hard time deciding between the Cross Roads and Kingpin. I liked the looks of the Kingpin better, (read minimalist), but I liked the larger fuel capacity, larger cargo capacity, dual disc brakes, larger passenger seat, and the aluminum frame of the Cross Roads. Also the Cross Roads has better ground clearance, important to me be cause I like riding the twisties. You might be surprised how you can throw one of these around, and if you put say 45 lb.s of pressure in the rear shock you get more ground clearance than you can safely use on the street. I've got 6000 miles on the XRs now and have been practicing the techniques taught on the "Ride Like A Pro" video and the weight of the bike is now is a non issue, really, even in parking lots and other tight spots. Just takes practice. I'm 5'9", 170 lb.s, not exactly big for the bike. I put the shift lever and rear brake lever in the rearward position and the bike fits me perfect. In no way am I putting down the Kingpin, its a great bike. It's just that for me the XRs was the better choice. My first trip on this bike was 4000 miles. I am REALLY enjoying this bike. Hope this helps.

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I went to the dealership with the intention of buying a kingpin but road the XR at the suggestion of my husband. I left with it.

I am 5'4" and went from a Vulcan LT which is about the same weight as the kingpin. The XR stands up extremely easy. I did put the low heated seat on the bike but i didn't have trouble with the stock seat,.

I love curves and it flies threw them. It doesn't seem like a heavy bike. If I have to back it up on an incline I am screwed but I had the same issue with the LT.

To me the bike looks big due to the saddlebags which I really enjoy. I can pack for a week in one bag. Of course it is partially due to wearing riding pants. I don't have to pack more than one or two pair of jeans.

My husband can do figure eights ion it in a much shorter span than me- one of the things I need to work on. My point being he says it handles extremely well in slow speed manuevers. We ride a lot of secondary roads as well as interstate. It handles great.

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