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post #1 of 13 (permalink) Old 07-02-2014, 03:48 PM Thread Starter
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checking belt out and found this mark.like a surface scratch must have come from a road patch and a piece of tar got stuck in there. It goes every 8th tooth. also what do think of my pully? just wondering i was thinking it should look smoother.one last thing my rear tire has a flat spot all the way around the middle. is this normal? psi at 40 and around 2200 mi on frnt and rear.frnt is at 36 psi and no flatness to be seen. thanks for your help.i did check rear pully and cleaned it.
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i can't really see the damage you're indicating on the belt. Good sign maybe? I dunno lol

As for the tire, it's not unusual to wear a flat spot in a motorcycle tire, especially if you don't spend much time in the twisties.

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front pulley is steel and if you don't feel and sharp edges or spots it should be ok.

Hard to see belt but it might be fine. You could order a belt and have it around for that day yours breaks and that could be years from now

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Hard to see belt but it might be fine. You could order a belt and have it around for that day yours breaks and that could be years from now
Not a bad plan there. Easy peasy to change the belt on a Vic.

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Thanks guys. the spot on the belt is near my thumb. just feels like a scrape dont see any cracks or anything.Most of my riding is on the straights.but you can really feel where it is flat.gotta find more twisties. i also was reading how engine breaking as well as it being the drive tire will aid in that as well.

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rock I am guessing, and it should be fine for another oil change, Then check it again.
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Thanks guys. the spot on the belt is near my thumb. just feels like a scrape dont see any cracks or anything.Most of my riding is on the straights.but you can really feel where it is flat.gotta find more twisties. i also was reading how engine breaking as well as it being the drive tire will aid in that as well.
Heavy throttle and heavy engine braking will flat spot a tire quickly. I don't spend much time in RI but if you're riding on really abrasive roads that will also speed flat spotting. Rears will ALWAYS flat spot long before the fronts because of the drive loads. Depending on the weight bias of the bike they may also have more weight to carry which again, speeds up flat spotting. When I lived in Michigan it was a fact of life that the middle 1/4 of the tire would be to the cords before the sides even had measurable wear.

The big issue with flat spotting is when it starts to take on the profile of a car tire. Not looking to start a darkside debate here but when a tire has a significant "corner" in it's profile, it becomes a bit harder to initiate a lean. Once you've gotten it leaned far enough you will eventually roll off that corner and the bike will "fall" into the turn. This won't necessarily cause problems except that the handling will be very inconsistent based on lean angle.

I've only ever ridden a couple bikes that were that bad but it was nerve wracking. Find some twisties and get on the throttle exiting the turns to help even out the wear. Lighten up on the throttle going straight to slow the progression of that flat spot. Once it's there you're never going to get rid of it though so eventually you're going to replace a tire with a lot of meat left on the sides.

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Your belt and pulley are fine. As long as you don't have a break in the edge of the belt or multiple teeth on the belt that are eroding away unevenly you can run it til the wheels fall off.

I've had belts that have had three and four rock holes in them that I never worried about but let one of those holes break the edge and it's time to change.

By the way, belts very seldom fail, i.e. break. That is unless you're playing badass and doing burn outs, wheelies etc. Most times pieces just start coming off and you'll notice it during a routine inspection or you'll hear it smacking stuff like the swingarm or fender long before you have a catastrophic failure.

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The Factory says to replace the belt at 30k. Seems like throwing a dart to Pop but I ain't too bright. Still, if this were Jeopardy and the answer were "Replace Belt" I would have guessed the question is What is " Keep an eye on the belt and pulleys and maintain correct adjustment until wear is visible"? Alex.

Harley used to direct replacement at 60k but since belt material tech has improved over time now at 60 they inspect instead of replace. That doesn't mean Vic belts are up to the same standards but I imagine that they probably are.

One smart thing I did do was stash a spare belt and pulleys on the shelf. The belt is probably more likely to get trashed from a single event than the effects of wear. Vic dealers don't stock replacements that I am aware of. The ordering cycle is usually a week or more for a replacement. It's about a two hour job to replace one, two hours and a week if you don't have one that is. Plus having spares gives you something to look at for comparison. Plenty of riders have made themselves believe that their stuff "still looks brand new at 50000" when it is a far cry from it and looking at one that really is new next to one that is not can be an eye opener.

I have had my bike for two years. When I got it and started hunting for a spare belt I got the stark realization that it's a ghost town of aftermarket parts manufacturers. At that time there was no alternative to the Vic belt. Everybody comments on the lack of suppliers and always adds, but they are coming. The former is true, the latter, not so much. Geegaws and doilies, sure. Always room for another handlebar or LED array that changes color to the bass line but take Lloyds out of the equation and how much of a build could you do ground up and not essentially put together a factory crate motor?

These bikes have been belt driven for 15 years. Belt manufacturers you would think are actively trying to expand the customer base. The Chinese copied just about every single thing that America makes. Yet no Hung Low belt drive alternatives for Victorys? Hmmm. The only reason not to provide an alternative is there is no money to be made there due to small numbers of units or small numbers of failures or both.

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I bought at a great price, a used belt from another forum member who had triked his Vic. A good source for a spare belt at a reasonable cost could be to contact those companies that convert Victorys to trikes.

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