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post #1 of 35 (permalink) Old 07-18-2014, 02:38 PM Thread Starter
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Are these things {Victory's} oil burners ? Mine has 5709 miles on it..and the PO said he had it serviced @ approx 4500. And today it was down 1qt+ ? I had a ck/eng light the other day [briefly] checking the oil hot,& on the side stand, I thought it was ok. But today [warm] and propped level it was down.

Like to know who was the dumb ass that put the dip-stick where it is...RIGHT NEXT TO THE EXHAUST....and designed it to be checked level.....piss-poor engineering IMO.

Another question...what are the accepted oil substitutes for Vic oil ? @ $11.00 a quart, and a dealer 40 miles away...?? I'd like to switch to full-syn...Likely Castrol GTX or Edge will be fine....used it in metric wet-clutch bikes before without any problems. Just thought I'd ask the more experienced here...
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Rotella T6 5w/40 is a good alternative .... 21.00 @ wally world for a gallon , full syn too !

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I hear a lot of complaints about having to check the oil on the bike while it's level. But I've yet to hear about a bike that does not require such. By all means, someone prove me wrong if that's the case. Yeah, the dipstick is in a good place for getting a 2nd-degree burn on your hand if you follow Vic instructions for checking oil level. Could be worse. It could have a sight glass and have to be checked level like my Kawasaki did.

I've never noticed any oil consumption in either of the Vics. Didn't have the Vegas for long, sure, but it never used any.

Castrol's MC oil formulations are called Power RS or Act>Evo and fully synthetic 10w-40 and 20w-50 viscosities are available. I'm not aware of a Castrol Edge formulation that is JASO-MA spec...doesn't mean there isn't one. I just haven't come across it. I did a little research and it seems the 10w-40 is NOT JASO-MA, but i had to look at several different sites to find that info. Without the bottle in front of me, I will withhold judgment.

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I hear a lot of complaints about having to check the oil on the bike while it's level. But I've yet to hear about a bike that does not require such. By all means, someone prove me wrong if that's the case. Yeah, the dipstick is in a good place for getting a 2nd-degree burn on your hand if you follow Vic instructions for checking oil level. Could be worse. It could have a sight glass and have to be checked level like my Kawasaki did.

I've never noticed any oil consumption in either of the Vics. Didn't have the Vegas for long, sure, but it never used any.

Castrol's MC oil formulations are called Power RS or Act>Evo and fully synthetic 10w-40 and 20w-50 viscosities are available. I'm not aware of a Castrol Edge formulation that is JASO-MA spec...doesn't mean there isn't one. I just haven't come across it. I did a little research and it seems the 10w-40 is NOT JASO-MA, but i had to look at several different sites to find that info. Without the bottle in front of me, I will withhold judgment.

Different folks as they say I always thought the sight glass was easier. I used a mirror while sitting on the bikes...

With the dipstick it could have been engineered to be checked tilted. Can't remember for sure but I believe Honda ? is....

should be able to determine how. Check it full /level....tilt it & note the level of the oil on the stick...then I'll know where it should be tilted & warm....didn't think of that when I was doing it..but will .

I hope the consumption is rare [break-in] ? or I also wonder if the dealer that did the 5000 mi service may not have filled it to proper level ? I'll keep a close eye on it
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Different folks as they say I always thought the sight glass was easier. I used a mirror while sitting on the bikes...
HA! I never though of using a mirror.

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Different folks as they say I always thought the sight glass was easier. I used a mirror while sitting on the bikes...
Now that is fookin BRILLIANT!

I was just thinking today after I changed the oil in my FJR about how I prefer site glasses to those idiotic dip sticks. But I don't prefer the one on my FJR as I have to curl up in a little fetal ball beneath the motorcycle to see it. And then I have to try to lift the bike off the stand and make it perpendicular from the vantage point of my little fetal ball.

I do however have a mirror on a telescopic arm and I'm stoopified that it never occurred to me to use it from atop the seat.

Gawd, tricks like this make sifting thru all the hateful dumbshit posts worthwhile.

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just put the rotella in the other day seems quieter runs a little cooler but only 1000 miles in

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why does the oil have to be warm or hot to check it.
Why not put a 2x4 under kickstand and check when cold.

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[QUOTE=Luciferiad;1007185]I hear a lot of complaints about having to check the oil on the bike while it's level. But I've yet to hear about a bike that does not require such. By all means, someone prove me wrong if that's the case.

I'm a new guy here but an "older" HD guy. The oil in HD's is to be checked with the bike on the side stand.

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No they aren't really known to use oil. They do seem easy to over/under fill though.

Any wet clutch compatible JASO MA/MA2 oil will work. I like a certain brand but won't join in the fight.

Agreed the checking procedure is a pain, but most are. Start with a KNOWN acceptable level. Let the bike cool overnight, pull the stick and place your own mark on it. It is doing the same thing in the same way and getting a result, not that hard.

A note from the guy who did it, DO NOT get carried away with filling the crank case. It will flow enough residue into the vent to scare the begeebers out of you. Oil will be flowing down the vents on the jugs and it can be a bear to spot the problem. Well, more an annoyance when you figure it out but refer to the third sentence of this paragraph.

Don't get annoyed or panic too soon, there are plenty of helpful folks here and many times things aren't as bad as they seem on the surface, or it is just something we all had to learn to live with.

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