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post #1 of 54 (permalink) Old 07-29-2014, 05:04 PM Thread Starter
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Default You guys are crazy, you know that. Right?

Me and the wife are just regular folks. I have a GED and the wife has a 2 year assoiciate degree in business management where we eek out a living in rural eastern North Carolina. We have never aspired to be wealthy nor had relatives that were, but we paid off the mortage on the home we moved in that was built in 1970 and we bought in 1977 after 3 second mortages--the worst one thanks to Huricaine Floyd in 1999. I drove an 03 Pathfinder and she has a 1999 RAV 4 with almost 180,000 miles, but it run and drives great---so why mess with a good thing, right? We pay our bills and enjoy the 2012 XR and she has her MX5 convertible and life is good.

I enjoy reading reading about all the new Indians and Magnums and think to myself--- ARE YOU FREAKING NUTS!!!!!!!! People are dropping $30,000 in motorcycles--- or very close to it!!!!!!!!! Who are these people????????? The Vic equipped as the picture shows with the speakers in the lids and custom paint has got to be close to that OTD---and the Road Master--slap a nice exhaust and a very few extras in there and you know you are north of $30,000 easy.

I have owned a ton of bikes over the years, but only 2 of them were new and they were both Hondas. I have discovered that you can get a year old ANYTHING with less than 2,000 miles for about 65-75% of new price. In 2006 I got my 06 Road King Custom with SE pipes and extra seat and goodies for $14,000--rode it for 2 years and sold it for almost the same amount. Bought a 3 year old Fatboy with less than 400 miles on it for 2/3s MSRP, got my 1 year old Kingpin with 1600 miles and my XR with 559 miles--all for about 70% of the cost of a new bike.

YES I AM CHEAP!!!! I KNOW IT. I can't help it. Sue me. I understand there are people out there who have lots of money. I cannot relate. Sorry I wish I could I really really wish I could. It is hard for me to imagine spending more on a motorcycle than I paid for my house. I will let you guys do that and watch Craigslist in the next 3 or 4 years to see whats out there. In the meantime, I will read the posts and dream on....................................

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post #2 of 54 (permalink) Old 07-29-2014, 05:08 PM
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Hey man I'm there with you. I don't understand why people by brand new vehicles of any kind when you can always buy a 1 year old model and save a bunch of money. And the Victory is the first bike that I have owned that I actually had to finance. Every other motorcycle that I've ever owned I paid cash for. Honestly it kind of makes me sick that I even financed a "recreational vehicle".

The vast majority of the guys buying these bikes are in their later stages of life, usually with kids grown and out of the house. They have pretty decent jobs and have a little disposable income so they go out and buy what they want. I ride with a guy who has over $50 grand in a CVO Harley Davidson. I've known guys who had $80 - $100 grand in big block Boss Hoss and V-8 Chopper motorcycles. They are all in their 50's and 60's, always had a good / great job, and now that the kids are grown and gone they are going to spend their money on what makes them happy. Some guys it big expensive boats, some guys it's fast cars, some guys its motorcycles. The simple truth is that they want one and can afford to buy one so why not?

I'm lucky enough to have a career that I could buy a brand new Indian or basically any motorcycle that I wanted. But at this stage in my life I'm not wired that way. It does seem crazy to me to spend that kind of money on a motorcycle when you can spend $15 grand or less on a great 1 year old bike. But I can't promise you in the future that I won't be one of those guys who buys the new Indian. I'll never say never.

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I'm poor too .... Just makes dreaming that much better I guess .... But , I do have a great family and a nice bike !

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I'm with ya brutha!!

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I too only have a GED and my wife has an associates. I work as a mechanic and she works for a bank. We're not wealthy by any means but we do make a descent living. I'm one of those who would drop that kind of money. I'm only 5k from having that much in my new CCT. BUT I'm not one of those to save up the money and pay for it in cash. I just borrow from the bank. I worked hard to build my credit so I may as well use it. I don't see it as 30k just for a motorcycle, to me, a motorcycle is my transportation. We bought my wife's transportation new (Altima) and we bought my transportation new (bike). I don't like buying used, I like owning and knowing every single mile.

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I know where you're coming from.
My Vegas is way beyond anything I dreamt of owning,
I got a great deal and paid cash.
Spent a few grand bringing her up to scratch.
Got the Motor breathing real nice with Torquetubes and pipes,
And slapped on rear seat, pegs, backrest and Burleigh Bars.
A tach to see exactly where Im at.
All for less than the cost of a stifled newbie.

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Originally Posted by LILMAGS500 View Post
I'm poor too .... Just makes dreaming that much better I guess .... But , I do have a great family and a nice bike !
Dreaming is the best part.

In response to 4", I believe it's a personality type. I prefer to throw money away on experiences, but I do ride a lot and will spend dough to keep a bike or two in good running order.

When we visited Italy, we were shown towers all over the town. Back then, people used their wealth to build towers. The tallest one belonged to the cat with the most money and so on. People in our community carry on that tradition with chrome and fancy wheels. Human nature marches on...

FWIW, I was recently impressed outta my socks by a car stereo. The wife and I were out walking the dog and we heard this wonderfully clear music, with excellent sound dynamics about a block away from where it emanated. I figured someone was having a live band at a party. As I got closer I kinda figured out which house it was coming from and then, not seeing a party, I thought this guy must have one hell of a home stereo. When I finally got up to the house, all that crystal clear sound was coming out of the guy's car while he diddled around in the yard.

Not very nice to the neighbors, but impressive as hell. I can see why some of these guys spend like crazy on audio. But what I don't get is where they are getting their tracks. I was listening to a Tom Petty interview on the radio the other day. He said that MP3s are approximately 5% of the sound quality of a studio recording. CDs are much better, but do people still use those on bikes?
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But aren't you glad someone buys all that, doesn't ride it, gets over their "crisis" and wants to sell.
If not for them, all the less expensive nearly new stuff wouldn't be there.
I buy a bike to put 100K or more on it. Mine is stock sans the seat and a self imposed stage 1 type set up that cost much less and does much more.
Frugal is good. That sounds like what you really are.

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