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post #1 of 17 (permalink) Old 02-14-2012, 07:52 PM Thread Starter
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Default XC and SG weight comparison?

Hey all, well been looking at bikes. Talked to alot of dealers, mostly online, making offers. These Stealers today are the most erogant, lowball artist I've ever delt with, both Harley and Victory Stealers.

Went today to our local Harley shop to sit back on a few bikes to see how the weight feels to my back and if I am any stronger. Man, the full dressures would be a bit to much if I had momma on, especially with bags loaded. The Street Glide felt like a comfortable weight.

Had me thinking of the XC, compaired to the XCT. I have only been on the XC a few times, and a XCT once. Just wondering those of you that have the XC, if you had or sat on a SG (Street Glide) and how does the weight compair?

Personally I would prefer the XC, think it is great, but dealers are low, low, low balling me. I do have mine for sale and hope I sell it, so I don't trade it. But, if not, it will be which dealer gives me the best deal either Victory or Harley. Later-

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I haven't ridden a XCT yet but I did ride both the XC and SG when the Victory comparison trailer came to town. Here's what I thought:

Standing both bikes up off the kickstand the SG felt heavier to me but that may be because it leaned farther on the kickstand.

Low speed riding the SG handled a little better because the steering was a little firmer.

Highway riding the XC handled much better because it had twice the suspension as the SG.

Cornering the XC did great and the SG scraped with much less lean than the XC.

Railroad tracks that didn't phase the XC seriously threw the steering off on the SG and almost put me into the next lane.

Acceleration on the SG was great in first gear and the XC took the cake in every other gear.

Honestly I was shopping for a Road King (RK) before my wife told me to look at Victory. The first thing that caught me was the fact that you get so much more for your money with a Victory. Look at it this way, if you compare a RK to a XR they are pretty comparable until you look at the engines and the maintainance. Victory comes factory with a 106 - how much more does it cost to upgrade a RK to a 103? Victory has common oil and a 5000 interval - HD has 3 sumps and a 3000 mile interval. Looking at more things to compare you find more things tha really aren't comparable.

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Thanks Ammo umb, for the comparisons. I have felt as if the SG is small to me, and when Charlene and I went on out out west trip a few years ago we traded with out friends that has a Ultra. The Ultra felt small to me and my wife said she felt cramped, but then again at that time we was on our yamaha Venture. I would honestly prefer the XC over the SG, the other way around for the wife, but all in all, I have to sell my Heritage first. I am going to lower my price on the Heritage if you know anyone looking for a heck of a deal. Thanks again for your reply and 2cents, most appreciated. Later-

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Comparing the Cross Country and Street Glide is very much apples to apples. There are only small differences … trade-offs… between the two. Depends on what appeals to you.

As to your specific question... I found no significant difference in how heavy the two bikes felt off the stand, at low speeds, around town, or on the highway. The SG did bottom out way easier, but that was due to suspension travel not weight.

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Harley service intervals
Oil & filter - 5,000 miles
Primary - 10,000 miles
Transmission - 20,000 miles
with 3 fluids, no chance of items from the tranny or clutch floating around in the engine. just another thought.
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Harley service intervals
Oil & filter - 5,000 miles
Primary - 10,000 miles
Transmission - 20,000 miles
with 3 fluids, no chance of items from the tranny or clutch floating around in the engine. just another thought.
1 Yes and you can use Harley synthetic for all 3 now so it is not that bad. 2 oil filter in front collects dirt and road grime. #3 more areas to leak oils. Resell value which can you sell faster in a saturated market? Personal tastes and looks, upgrade options, dealers and venders to get parts. Victory does not have a lot of after market products out there. Also have noticed the dealer network is like 3rd string quarterback, so you have to watch your back. Is the dealer you buy off of going to be in business in the next ten years ??

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1 Yes and you can use Harley synthetic for all 3 now so it is not that bad. 2 oil filter in front collects dirt and road grime. #3 more areas to leak oils. Resell value which can you sell faster in a saturated market? Personal tastes and looks, upgrade options, dealers and venders to get parts. Victory does not have a lot of after market products out there. Also have noticed the dealer network is like 3rd string quarterback, so you have to watch your back. Is the dealer you buy off of going to be in business in the next ten years ??
No dirt or road grime,Oil filter in front is kept clean by the front fender. More leaks? Not unless you strip the threads on the drain plugs. this could happen on any bike.
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I have a XC, but rent a SG often when in Florida (work part time there, live in California).

The XC and SG are pretty similar in weight. The loaded up models of both, I.e. the XCT and the ultra glides feel much heavier due to the top boxes ( both the weight and their location).

The SG is a lowered version of the Harley tourer, which is done by the factory reducing a already too limited 3 " travel rear shock to 2". They look pretty cool, but ride really, really, really rough on anything but really smooth roads.

The SG has fairing mounted the forks, so it turns with the handlebars, the XC is frame mounted....doesn't turn. Makes a difference in feel, hard to describe. Also, due to this difference, the fairing, gueges and windshield on the SG are much closer to the rider than on the XC. Again, rider preference.

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Harley service intervals
Oil & filter - 5,000 miles
Primary - 10,000 miles
Transmission - 20,000 miles
with 3 fluids, no chance of items from the tranny or clutch floating around in the engine. just another thought.
Over the last 30 years or so I've owned numerous bikes, everyone of which shared oil between engine and tranny. I have yet to experience tranny items floating around in my engine. This is in fact the first time I can recall being alerted that this is a serious problem here on earth.

I think I may put magnets on the bottom of my engine to keep the gears from banging into the crankshaft in case they take float.




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Over the last 30 years or so I've owned numerous bikes, everyone of which shared oil between engine and tranny. I have yet to experience tranny items floating around in my engine. This is in fact the first time I can recall being alerted that this is a serious problem here on earth.

I think I may put magnets on the bottom of my engine to keep the gears from banging into the crankshaft in case they take float.

Perhaps Harley engineers arent quite so optimistic about their engines

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