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post #1 of 16 (permalink) Old 08-13-2014, 09:38 AM Thread Starter
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I'm really on the fence. I've got an SI joint issue from falling on my tailbone snowboarding with my son like 6-7 years ago, so seat of the pants comfort is really going to be the key. I had a Victory Vegas and loved it but sold it once I moved last summer, then got a Vstrom, and was laid off and sold that thing. I loved my Vegas and it's the only thing I ever reference for a cruiser-style bike. I'm 6'2 260, so I need forward controls obviously. These are my current considerations:

Vegas/Jackpot (bigger seat)
Raider/Warrior maybe, (Stryker seems a bit tiny)
V-Rod, early years and the only HD worth a look
Concours/VFR1200/FJR1300 (Comfort factor,ABS,etc.)

It's all a matter of comfort in the end. I know I can get a better seat on anything. My budget is ideally $9k and under, used obviously with less that 15-20k miles on it. Thoughts?
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you really want another Vegas don't you?...and who could blame you..
I ride a 2010 Vegas and love it

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Hahaha yeah mine was a 2010 too. Jackpot's seat looks a bit more inviting I have to admit.
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Hahaha yeah mine was a 2010 too. Jackpot's seat looks a bit more inviting I have to admit.
I thought they shared the same seat, anyway as you say you can get the seat redone to your specs.
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Victory Vegas 2010
Lloydz 109"cube big bore
" " 495 cams
" " TorqueTubes
" " timing wheel @4 deg.
" " Primary plate
" " IAV
RPW Slash pipes
PCV
Progressive 465 rear shock
Kingpin USD Forks
18" XC front wheel
1 3/4" 'Burleigh Bars'
Stebel air horn
12.106 @110.90mph
114/123

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" " VM1 Cams
Home gutted exhaust
Maximus
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I think the Jackpot's rear fender being bigger allows for a bigger/wider saddle, owners care to chime in?
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well…I feel your pain, literally, i'm 6'3" around 260-270. I was doing wheelies on my Suzuki 500 Quadracer over this past winter and flipped it, breaking my tailbone. My current bike at the time was a 2002 Harley Sportster. It was simply too small and way too harsh for me to comfortably ride anymore. I was looking for a bigger, softer bike, rode some big twin Harleys, and was not impressed…found a used 2010 Hammer "s" at a local powersports dealer with 5,500 miles. They were asking $10,500. I had $8,500 to work with. I took the Hammer out and HAD to have it…it fit like it was made for me. I got them down to $9,300 and haven't looked back. i've only put about 800 miles on it so far, but can go about 100-150 miles without having to stop and stretch my back. On my harley, maybe 15-20 minutes before my back was screaming. The wide tire Vic's are great for big guys. I no longer look like a shriner going down the road. Hope this helps some. good luck!
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yeah youre right,
I just looked at a pic of a Jackpot seat, does look more generous ( for the rider anyway, wouldnt wanna be on the back of it too long)
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Lloydz 109"cube big bore
" " 495 cams
" " TorqueTubes
" " timing wheel @4 deg.
" " Primary plate
" " IAV
RPW Slash pipes
PCV
Progressive 465 rear shock
Kingpin USD Forks
18" XC front wheel
1 3/4" 'Burleigh Bars'
Stebel air horn
12.106 @110.90mph
114/123

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" " VM1 Cams
Home gutted exhaust
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Both tuned by [email protected] Dyno
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I'm really on the fence. I've got an SI joint issue from falling on my tailbone snowboarding with my son like 6-7 years ago, so seat of the pants comfort is really going to be the key. I had a Victory Vegas and loved it but sold it once I moved last summer, then got a Vstrom, and was laid off and sold that thing. I loved my Vegas and it's the only thing I ever reference for a cruiser-style bike. I'm 6'2 260, so I need forward controls obviously. These are my current considerations:

Vegas/Jackpot (bigger seat)
Raider/Warrior maybe, (Stryker seems a bit tiny)
V-Rod, early years and the only HD worth a look
Concours/VFR1200/FJR1300 (Comfort factor,ABS,etc.)

It's all a matter of comfort in the end. I know I can get a better seat on anything. My budget is ideally $9k and under, used obviously with less that 15-20k miles on it. Thoughts?
You know how they say... anything is for sale? I just got this(little over week ago) and you can have it for $9K. It has all the stuff you want and in perfect condition with only 12,000 on the clock. I've been pinching myself. Drove 500 miles to get it.

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yeah good call there, glad you found the one! I just don't care for the Hammer's look honestly but I'm trying to be all-inclusive and consider all angles, go sit on/ride various bikes to get things narrowed down. I had a zrx1100 at one time and it had the old school big bread loaf style seat, never complained. Sport bikes are out of the questions, but sport tourers might be an option. Going to look at a VFR1200 tonight, not counting on it though honestly. We shall see.
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I'm really on the fence. I've got an SI joint issue from falling on my tailbone snowboarding with my son like 6-7 years ago, so seat of the pants comfort is really going to be the key. I had a Victory Vegas and loved it but sold it once I moved last summer, then got a Vstrom, and was laid off and sold that thing. I loved my Vegas and it's the only thing I ever reference for a cruiser-style bike. I'm 6'2 260, so I need forward controls obviously. These are my current considerations:

Vegas/Jackpot (bigger seat)
Raider/Warrior maybe, (Stryker seems a bit tiny)
V-Rod, early years and the only HD worth a look
Concours/VFR1200/FJR1300 (Comfort factor,ABS,etc.)

It's all a matter of comfort in the end. I know I can get a better seat on anything. My budget is ideally $9k and under, used obviously with less that 15-20k miles on it. Thoughts?
I've got personal experience with 3 of the bikes that you listed there and I have tailbone problems as well. I've owned a Raider and my brother has owned a couple of V-Rods and a Councourse 1400 (all of which I have ridden significantly). IMHO the Raider is the best big tire / factory chopper style motorcycle out there. The 113" Yamaha V-twin is the best V-twin on the market if left in factory condition. But, it will kill your tailbone (the bike actually caused my tailbone injury). I don't care how good your seat is, any bike that has your feet way out in front of you is going to put pressure on your tailbone. I tried everything to fix my tailbone issue on that bike but it just couldn't be done.

V-Rods are great motorcycles and the seating position won't put pressure on your tailbone. But, they are small motorcycles that don't feel or sit like a cruiser. I'm 6'-5" and I am very cramped on a V-Rod even with the forward controls. The early V-Rod's had tiny gas tanks (like filling up every 90 - 100 miles small). The biggest issue with V-Rods for me is the 15,000 mile valve services. They are a big pain and would prevent me from ever owning a V-Rod.

The Concourse 1400 was a hell of a motorcycle. They are faster (by a lot), handle better, stop better, and overall just do everything better than cruisers. But here is the thing, they still aren't cruisers. You can't move your feet on those bikes and eventually your knees start to hurt (at least mine does). The seating position will relieve the tailbone pain but at the expense of comfort in your legs. To put it this way. Even though the Concourse does everything better than a cruiser. My brother still sold it and bought a Victory Vision.

I'm a big fan of used Visions as the best deal out there for a motorcycle that will do everything. I know you can find them for less than $9,000 as well. You just can't get more comfort and utility for less money. I've never ridden a Vegas but if it worked for you before I'd have to say it has to be a front runner. Just looking at the seating position I think it would eventually hurt my tailbone but if you had good luck with it in the past that says a lot.

The thing that sucks about tailbone pain is that you can't just go for a test ride and determine if the bike will work for you. I have to ride a bike for several hours before I can tell if it is going to bother my tailbone or not. So you having a good history with the Vegas says a lot for me.

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-RPW Exhaust, Lloydz Air Filter, VM1 Cams, ATS (Timing Wheel), 1/4 turn throttle & IAV. PCV with Custom Tune by Coweta Customs.

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