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Test rode a new Victory Cross Country today.Rode smother and handled better than my 04 V92 but I was disappointed in the power between the old 92ci and the new 106ci.Both with Stage1 kits.My old V92 has a better pull and harder hit of power in the mid range.
Is this normal? Is the dealer lying about the CC having a stage1 kit?
What would it take to get a CR or CC to pull like my V92?
I really interested in a Cross Roads 8Ball but if it doesnt have to rip my 04 TC V92 has I may just keep the V92.

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The Cross bikes (Cross Roads, Cross Country, etc) were detuned when compared to their steel-framed counterparts. Why, I have no idea. EPA regs mostly. Easy enough to fix after the fact



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The Cross bikes (Cross Roads, Cross Country, etc) were detuned when compared to their steel-framed counterparts. Why, I have no idea. EPA regs mostly. Easy enough to fix after the fact
I did not know that...

Do you know specifically what the differences are? Cams, compresion, etc?

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A new 106 is a pig in a blanket. The engine needs about 5K on it to wake up, very dramatic FWIW.
As for the Stage 1, on a X bike it is a noise upgrade. A controller will help a lot and cool it down a bit. The CC is also a couple hundred pounds heavier as well.
What is is compared to what you have I can't say. The steel frame bikes have a little different cam IIRC, they also have a better air intake but you can remedy a lot of that by removing the sound strip or putting in a Lloydz filter. It won't get to the point the steel frames can be raised to but does well for what it is.

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CC bikes have plenty of power but you have to remember a demo bike might only have a few hundred miles on it were your bike is full broken in.
Go out and find a broken in CC and run with him I think you'll be surprised yes the CC only weighs 800 pounds and yours ways 300 pounds less

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CC bikes have plenty of power but you have to remember a demo bike might only have a few hundred miles on it were your bike is full broken in.
Go out and find a broken in CC and run with him I think you'll be surprised yes the CC only weighs 800 pounds and yours ways 300 pounds less
I know the weight dif is going to make it a bit less responsive but I still think it should have noticeable seat of the pants hit when you gas it.My V92(TC with windshield and hard bags) at 3000rpms and you hit the gas you better hold on.This CC was just smooth no power hit or anything.Any one go with the Stage2 kit on one these?
Really contemplating a CrossRoads but I dont want to give up power

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A new 106 is a pig in a blanket. The engine needs about 5K on it to wake up, very dramatic FWIW.
As for the Stage 1, on a X bike it is a noise upgrade. A controller will help a lot and cool it down a bit. The CC is also a couple hundred pounds heavier as well.
What is is compared to what you have I can't say. The steel frame bikes have a little different cam IIRC, they also have a better air intake but you can remedy a lot of that by removing the sound strip or putting in a Lloydz filter. It won't get to the point the steel frames can be raised to but does well for what it is.
Good to know. I am just passing 1000 miles on my CCT and find a lot to like on it but power is only so-so. It gets the job done but I have no trouble hanging on. If there are simple upgrades that bring on more power without excess noise I am going to be looking at them, especially if it runs cooler too.

First thing is to go riding and get more miles. After I pass 5000 or so I'll think about changes.

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Good to know. I am just passing 1000 miles on my CCT and find a lot to like on it but power is only so-so. It gets the job done but I have no trouble hanging on. If there are simple upgrades that bring on more power without excess noise I am going to be looking at them, especially if it runs cooler too.

First thing is to go riding and get more miles. After I pass 5000 or so I'll think about changes.
LOL, I almost got myself in trouble when the XCT was new. It wouldn't go at all, especially after what I was used to. Got a good boost at about 4800 miles IIRC and another less dramatic "settling in" at 10K.

A controller and air filter seemed to make a lot of difference in giddy up, but it is so smooth I was curious at first if a power gain was made, until I got out by myself and started playing. BTW, power wasn't the motivation of the tuner, the snow white spark plugs and pillion comfort was the goal to correct.

If you want to be thrown off the back, you got the wrong bike, or need to part with some of your hard earned cash preferably with one of the better tuners noted on this board. Remember it is a touring bike and set up for smooth running, not anything of a "muscle" type ride. The Vic Shop recently posed some numbers with a controller, tune, air filter and timing wheel on a XCT ended up with 97 hp and torque was in the 1 teens I believe. Rylan said it was a sleeper for sure. You can give it a lot, but it is still a touring machine, and that is what I bought so it suits me just fine. Very nimble and deceptively agile for what it is with excellent road manners to boot.


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I am looking more at the CrossRoads than the CC.And dont want to be shut down by comparable Harleys.My V92 TC has done a great job at that with just a Stage1 kit.I had the impression the 106 would have comparable power if not more.
Too bad they dont offer a 100ci with good compression as an option on the new bikes.

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From the factory, it has milder cams and less timing advance.



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