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post #1 of 26 (permalink) Old 08-25-2014, 11:35 AM Thread Starter
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Time for a new Clutch,

I woudl appear after three trips to Ride like a Pro, and a couple of Demo rides plus 7000 miles out west with the trailer the clutch is given up the ghost.

Bike is on the lift at home and I have new steels and fibers now the question is can this be done without the "Special tools" or can they be purchased from someplace?

Like to get her back up and running before Kyle comes down to put in a variable pressure plate.

HC, Rylan? thoughts

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post #2 of 26 (permalink) Old 08-25-2014, 11:43 AM Thread Starter
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Anyone use a scorpion Clutch from WD? Pro's Con's

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You will need a compression tool. A Harley tool will work but you'll need to work on a washer to fit the Vic clutch. A bench grinder and 20 minutes should do it.
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I was in the same boat last summer, one RLP course and a few trips to the mountains pulling a trailer my clutch started slipping in the mid rpm range, it would take off fine but would slip when riding down the road and gas it hard.

Scott at Conquest Customs in Boca did my clutch , replaced it with a Barnett clutch and pressure plate, while there I also had him change out the clutch cable also from Barnett. All is good and and I dont think I'll be doing any RLAP courses any more, Scott had told me for every hour spent on the course its like 10,000 mile of clutch wear , not sure if its true or not but when I did the course my bike was fairly new ( about 2200 miles ) and it was hot, hot enough to cause a vapor lock between drills. I have to admit the RLAP course is fun and a good thing to learn, but the cost of a new clutch is not worth it.

When he took my clutch apart the plates in the center of the pack where glazed over and had signs of being hot, the crevices in the clutch disc where filled in with what looked like burnt oil. I think mine was done at 28,000 miles, I had been using only the Vic oil but now with Scotts recommendation I use Lucas semi synthetic.

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here is what the tool looks like. Maybe a aftermarket shop would rent you one. Or have Kyle bring his tool. It might be only a one time ever need tool




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I forgot to mention that my XCT Barnett clutch is so much better now , its like a new bike all over again. No more trying to find neutral , shifting up or down is easier , no more surging forward in the morning with the clutch pulled in. All in all a great upgrade from the stock clutch, although it was a bad way to find out I'm kind of glad I did.

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Clutch is now out of the bike and on the work bench. Compression tool is on order and with a little luck I might be on the road by the weekend.

Side note did call Barnett about the new clutch the Scorpion provides for more surface area per steel and friction plate. They do this by reducing the size of the hub slightly. The Scorpion also has six coil springs vs the diaphragm spring the Vic has.

HC might be correct that the OEM will handle 130hp, but it has a hard time with 120 torques.

For now the already purchased friction and steels will go in. After a consult with KMC/LLoydz/Rylan ( when they get back from playing in the salt) I will see which way to go Scorpion or Variable pressure plate.

Thanks for the info dentdave.

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After a little investigation I did get one of the great tuners to call me back, guess they have been on the Salt Lake running after Stugis.

So the response to Scorpion Clutch set up was "no comment".... the recomendation was the variable pressure plate over the Scorpion set up.

Also I was told that the stock set up is good for 120 torques but not much beyond that.

Spring compressor will be in today and I can start breaking into the pack and replacing stuff.

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Glad to read your clutch replacement is coming along. How would you rate the job of changing the Victory clutch? From a time and difficulty standpoint.

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Just a suggestion Squatch, go by the procedure in the manual for reassembling the pack. Pay attention to details. They count. I had a dealer do mine and he screwed it up 3 times before I finally bought the tool and did it myself. It isn't hard.
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