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post #1 of 31 (permalink) Old 03-02-2012, 07:59 PM Thread Starter
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Went to the dyne today. I've been itching to see what if any gains I've made with PCV/Auto tune and the Lloydz top filter.
I'm a little disappointed. Based on Lloydz stock dyne run I've picked 6 hp and torque is about the same the curve is much better much flatter and mostly above 100. The reason why I'm a little disappointed is he has a dyne run stock exhaust VIP and VFC which is about what I have and He shows 100 hp and 100 ftlb's. I'm beginning to think that run is miss identified. There's a comparison of my run and another Vic Performance exhaust Cat's removed, Ness top filter and PCV.
On a side note anyone have a suggestion for a good A/F ratio for power? MPG is no object.
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Victory motors like fuel, even 13.2:1 is fine. Cruise at 13.8.

Your graphs you show are STD correction factor. You will notice Lloydz curves are SAE correction factor. There can be quite a difference right there, as SAE reads lower in most cases.

The curves look great though....

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Half Crazy has been there with this many times and knows his stuff. I have also read on the forums that the Vic's like it in the 13.3 to 13.7 range.
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Went to the dyne today. I've been itching to see what if any gains I've made with PCV/Auto tune and the Lloydz top filter.
I'm a little disappointed. Based on Lloydz stock dyne run I've picked 6 hp and torque is about the same the curve is much better much flatter and mostly above 100. The reason why I'm a little disappointed is he has a dyne run stock exhaust VIP and VFC which is about what I have and He shows 100 hp and 100 ftlb's. I'm beginning to think that run is miss identified. There's a comparison of my run and another Vic Performance exhaust Cat's removed, Ness top filter and PCV.
On a side note anyone have a suggestion for a good A/F ratio for power?
Charts are interesting, but you fail to mention the only important thing. How does it run?

If it runs great, how could you be disappointed? Or are you saying it runs poorly?

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If it runs great, how could you be disappointed?
Yeah...

Two things:
1) Phuck auto-tune. Have someone who knows what they're doing tune the thing. Auto tune will never match a good tuner with a dyno.

2) If you're chasing numbers for "bar stool power", that's one thing... but if you want real-world power... and you wanna go hunting for V-Rods, M109Rs, and Rocket IIIs... what you're gonna need is more CUBIC DOLLARS.

It's that simple.

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MPG is no object.
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I understand this thing is a glorified moped, but still some of us do things to get a little more umph. I'm disappointed in the umph factor. The bike runs great, always did.

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Put some Big Honkers or Thundersticks on it and then see what the oomph factor is.

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Actualy, for this year Ness came out with some slip ons and thunder cones. They may be interesting. Lloydz will be coming out with something in the spring. The only thing is I'm comming off a Duc with full Arrows I told my DEAR wife this bike would be quiter.

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And should you run in to a Rocket 3 that Bob Carpenter has touched...you should surrender before you do something stupid like rev your engine
...over 240 rear wheel horsepower and almost 200 ft/lbs of torque at the rear wheel

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Yeah...

Two things:
1) Phuck auto-tune. Have someone who knows what they're doing tune the thing. Auto tune will never match a good tuner with a dyno.

2) If you're chasing numbers for "bar stool power", that's one thing... but if you want real-world power... and you wanna go hunting for V-Rods, M109Rs, and Rocket IIIs... what you're gonna need is more CUBIC DOLLARS.

It's that simple.

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