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Any on here make the switch from mechanical to hydraulic? I imagine its really nice on longer rides, especially if you get stuck in a lot of stop and go traffic. Is it difficult to switch to and roughly what did it cost you?

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Do a search on the topic. One member (can't remember who) did a write-up and youtube video showing step by step on changing to the Hydralic. Or go on youtube and you can probably do a search there. I want to do it at some point, just been spending my money on other mods first.

I found the thread don't know if I'm insterting this right for you just to click and it will go there or not.


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I just talked to Lloyd Greer about this last week. My bike is almost finished from a complete rebuild and he installed a variable clutch. I asked him about moving to a hydraulic clutch not so much from the pull aspect but from the reliability side of it. He actually advised against it saying that most of the cable snaps primarily come from the more aggressive riders and that the force needed to actuate a hydraulic clutch is just as much as a cable clutch for most clutches. I still think I would like one though!

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Your going to spend a good 600 bucks and find out there is no difference. Victory hydraulic clutch does not pull easy like the jap bikes. Go to a dealer and find out for your self.
Get a easy pull and you'll be better off and you'll have 500 bucks you didn't spend.

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Your going to spend a good 600 bucks and find out there is no difference. Victory hydraulic clutch does not pull easy like the jap bikes. Go to a dealer and find out for your self.
Get a easy pull and you'll be better off and you'll have 500 bucks you didn't spend.
One difference! It looks much better. I think its smoother also but not by much. I made the switch for around $430 when I put the Apes on my XR.



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I have the kit ready to be installed on my Vegas 8 Ball. I hoped it would be easier than the cable, especially in heavy city traffic, but even if it is not, then at least there is no cable to snap when I least expect it.

Will let you know if I notice any difference. I did try the pull on a different model at the dealership and found it was still heavy.

Oh well..
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My Boss has an 08 Vision he bought brand new. I've ridden his bike many times and I don't really feel much difference between my Hammers clutch and the Visions. As far as reliability goes the slave cylinder blew out on his Vision and left him stranded. Good thing he was at the dealer when it went. The part was covered under warrenty but the dealer didnt have one in stock. He had to give them a hard time but they finally took the part off a new bike to get him back on the road again.

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My Boss has an 08 Vision he bought brand new. I've ridden his bike many times and I don't really feel much difference between my Hammers clutch and the Visions. As far as reliability goes the slave cylinder blew out on his Vision and left him stranded. Good thing he was at the dealer when it went. The part was covered under warrenty but the dealer didnt have one in stock. He had to give them a hard time but they finally took the part off a new bike to get him back on the road again.
I don't find the clutch pull particularly hard on my XR, but when I got it, it was adjusted so as not to engage/disengage until right near the point where the lever position was in it's default state. This meant having my hand nearly fully extended in order to modulate the clutch. This made the effort more difficult than it needed to be.

I readjusted the clutch to engage/disengage more toward the middle of the lever travel and it is considerably easier to operate now.

Personally, I prefer hydraulic clutches. Not necessarily because they are easier to pull, but I've owned a lot of them and never had a problem with them. Also, since the hydraulics trade travel for effort, a slave cylinder can be made that is easier to pull and provides more lever travel to modulate the level of engagement than a cable. I bought a couple of them for my Ducs as they had horribly difficult stock clutch action. I've also been left stranded in a corn field as dusk due to a snapped cable...

I am curious about this Vision blow out. My guess is that it had a cut o-ring from the get go that just got progressively worse as it didn't even make it through warranty. Or are you suggesting that the case actually cracked and allowed brake fluid to spill out? How many miles did the bike have on it when it "blew out?"




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Don't get me wrong I'm not saying the hydraulics are unreliable by any means. I was very surprised by the faliure on the Vision. It was definetly defective from the factory because the bike was only about a month old.He also bought his 08 in 2010 so it had been sitting for awhile. He got a great deal on it,he paid less new than people where asking for thier used bikes. From what he described it must have blown a seal and lost the fluid.
I've been riding KTM enduro bikes for years which have hydraulic clutches and never had a problem. His Vision was actually what made me decide to buy my Hammer

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Just got the kit installed by my local dealer. Just as with the cruise control kit, a piece was missing. In this case it was the bleed nipple, which is not even listed on the parts list.

Luckily I was in the USA when they told me, so I was able to get one and take it back with me.

Picked up the bike today with the kit on. Looks better but that is the only advantage. Might be smoother, but sure as h*ll is no lighter. If anything it is heavier to pull. At least I dont have to worry about a broken clutch cable.

Interestingly, the clutch only now starts to engage at almost the full release of the lever. I guess this cannot be adjusted... can it? I prefer to get some 'bite' from the lever nearer to the grip.

So, the moral of this story is do not buy the hydraulic clutch kit hoping for a lighter clutch.... AND always check thoroughly that any Polaris kit is complete. I think they must have liquid lunches at the polaris after-market kit factory!
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