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Strange issue here folks. I've worked on cars my whole life, but never on motorcycles. For my second oil change at 5200 miles I'd thought I would tackle it myself.

The manual calls for 4.5 quarts. Well with normal motor oil there is a window on the side of the bottle. Not on Victory oil bottles though. So finding the halfway mark of the bottle wasn't as apparent. Point being is I believe I put too much oil in. The scoot runs fine, starts fine, seems fine with one exception: When I start the motor when its warm, say after its been running and I stop for gas, the low oil indicator blips on for less than half a second. It disappears right away and the motor runs as good as always. My concern is I never saw this until I changed the oil. I checked the oil level per the instructed procedure as I was highly doubtful that it was low. The stick was reading a bit high (about 1/8" over the full line). I didn't want to replace the copper washer, so I removed the oil through the dipstick hole via a turkey baster. Checked the oil and the level seemed fine, but still see the indicator upon a warm startup. When starting from a cold state there is no low oil indication. I feel really stupid considering my background, but I guess everyone makes mistakes.

My question is did the small amount of overfill permanently damage something? I rode about 300 miles since the change and before i noticed the indicator. Like I said, runs fine, but the indicator popping up on warm start up concerns me since it wasn't there before.

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I'm not too sure if it would be from too much oil, as the dealership always puts a full 5 qts in my 2011 XC, and it runs beautifully, never had an issue with oil pressure at all. As matter of fact I discovered it was more than normal when I was checking the level and more than a few drops spilled out and the level never went down below the fill line.
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Thank you TY. I guess it could have really been low. Which makes me feel a bit better as with any IC motor it's always best to have too little than too much. Just don't understand why the indicator only shows up with a warm motor. Not even half a second, but it does show up.

Edit: do all victorys have the same oil capacity?

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Tip to those who have to add half quarts: weigh the full quart container and have the scale close by as you pour, checking the weight occasionally. When you get to half the original weight, stop. I find a full quart usually weighs two pounds, so I stop at one pound. Simple, eh?

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My Harley trick, find a pint oil container or pint milk container and empty it (was fork oil for HD) and put oil in it and use as needed. Two pints = one quart. Good excuse for a trip - sometimes uses just a little oil and quarts take up too much room.

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Always measure the oil levels with the bike VERTICAL instead of while resting on the kickstand. That will give you your TRUE levels. I recently did my first @ 5,500 and noticed that when in the kickstand 4 quarts was close but as soon as I stood the bike up, I was low so I added the additional required 1/5 quart. I simply "guesstimated" and got it pretty close. With the Victory nozzle that comes in the oil change it was fairly easy to "get it right".




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Victory of Southern Maryland told me that if you leave it on the kickstand and check it, it will be the 1st three threads = full. Now I haven't changed my own oil just yet, but they told me they fill it up pretty full.
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Thanks for the replies everyone.

I check the oil with the bike vertical and at "normal operating temperature" per the manual. I don't have a temp gauge, so I just wait until my rpms read about 900rpm, which is what it is idling while riding.

I've looked everywhere I can see and there doesn't seem to be any leaks from a popped gasket so I know that's okay. I'm just concerned about any internal seals that I CAN'T see. Being new to the freedom motor, I'm not too knowledgeable about their inner components. I know everyone says that these motors are bullet proof, but I don't think they're bullet proof against negligence.

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I'm not too sure if it would be from too much oil, as the dealership always puts a full 5 qts in my 2011 XC, and it runs beautifully, never had an issue with oil pressure at all. As matter of fact I discovered it was more than normal when I was checking the level and more than a few drops spilled out and the level never went down below the fill line.
So does your manual say 5qt? I dounght it.
Your dealer must be charging you for something your not getting.
All the 2008 an up motord take 4 1/2 qts when bike is straight up an down.

Ask dealer why your being charged for 5qts when the bike only takes 4 1/2 qts.

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Victory of Southern Maryland told me that if you leave it on the kickstand and check it, it will be the 1st three threads = fulll.
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