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post #1 of 9 (permalink) Old 06-10-2012, 08:06 AM Thread Starter
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Default 04 Vegas will not start, not cranking over. Not EASY.

Went for a ride a couple weeks ago, no problems. Shut if off, went to fire it back up...acted like a dead battery.

The starter cranks the engine over about a 1/4 of a revolution.

There is something happening in the way the starter turns the engine over.

So I tried jumping it. Same result.
I tried bypassing the starter solenoid and activating the starter directly, same result.

Figured the starter was bad, replaced it...still doing the same thing.

Thinking the engine might be locked up, I pulled the spark plugs and rolled the bike in gear, clutch out. Engine turns over just fine.

I prefer to fix this myself.

I am thinking there is a starter clutch/sprag mechanism in the case and it is malfunctioning somehow. Can anyone confirm or offer advice.

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I see nowhere that you installed a fully charged battery

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anybody else?
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I see nowhere that you installed a fully charged battery.

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LOL! Just kidding!

I have never seen the starter mechanisms in the case fail before, but I see battery problems all the time. Probably why Kev said to start with the easy stuff.
Otherwise if you want to fix it yourself what are you waiting for, I'm curious as to what you find when you open the primary up. The system is pretty simple, but I guess there could be a problem with one of the gears/bearings. Only one way to find out though....

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I see nowhere that you installed a fully charged battery
Jump starting against a shit battery will do no good, and you say nothing about a strange noise after the 1/4 turn. Still waiting in the basics

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lmao I had typed in like 4 suggestions when I decided to reread the original post and noticed you said it's NOT cranking. DERP.

If you have a multimeter or even test light, get someone to push the starter button for you while you check at the leads connecting to the starter motor. If you got juice there I got no further suggestions for you unless the starter has a bunk solenoid.

If no juice, check the starter motor regulator (gotta have one somewhere to carry that kinda amperage) and then the connections in your switch box.

but before spending any more money, seriously get the battery checked. Any parts store can check its current state or load test it for you.

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The starters on our bikes don't have a spring/sprag mechanism... they're engaged and turning with the engine 100% of the time. My brother's 29k mile '04 Vegas had an intermitten issue where the starter wouldn't turn at all, but it sounds like you have a different issue. I pulled the starter apart, cleaned the internal contacts, and he hasn't had a problem since. Seeing that you have a new starter, I'm guessing that's not it.

I have to agree with what everyone has already said. Start with a fresh battery and go from there.

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The starters on our bikes don't have a spring/sprag mechanism... they're engaged and turning with the engine 100% of the time. My brother's 29k mile '04 Vegas had an intermitten issue where the starter wouldn't turn at all, but it sounds like you have a different issue. I pulled the starter apart, cleaned the internal contacts, and he hasn't had a problem since. Seeing that you have a new starter, I'm guessing that's not it.

I have to agree with what everyone has already said. Start with a fresh battery and go from there.
Our starters have an external clutch, an idler gear, and the sprag is located on the flywheel to starter driven gear. The starter only turns when cranking

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