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I am new to the Victory world and just picked up a 2012 Hammer S. I was looking into adding some pipes and like the look of the Stage 1 Shotgun setup. On Victories website it says it must be dealer installed because the computer needs tuning. Does the kit come with some sort of programmer or do i need to buy that separate? Can this be installed ad home and programmed?

Any advice on the Stage 1 kits?

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You need to do some more research on performance parts for victory. The shotgun pipes arent very good for performance according to the dyno. Ive been interested in some more HP too. Try Lloyds motorworkz.com. He has dyno'ed many combinations of performance upgrades and shows the results on the website.
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BTW, I have the stage 1 with the victory swept pipes and airbox. The dyno says its not a good setup either, but it looks and sounds great!. I will be getting a less restrictive airbox and exhaust in the future.

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Thanks for the info. I did check out Lloydz and he doesn't care much for the shotgun pipes. It looks like RPW is the way to go.

BTW nice looking Hammer.

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I agree about the RPW. The price for HP isnt cheap though. Thx for the compliment. Im going to bring my bike to Lloyds in a month or so. Not sure how much I will spend.

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I am new to the Victory world and just picked up a 2012 Hammer S. I was looking into adding some pipes and like the look of the Stage 1 Shotgun setup. On Victories website it says it must be dealer installed because the computer needs tuning. Does the kit come with some sort of programmer or do i need to buy that separate? Can this be installed ad home and programmed?

Any advice on the Stage 1 kits?
The stage 1 kits consist of the pipes and a high flow air filter and a new download to your ECU which controls the Air to Fuel ratio in your injection system. This is going to be necessary whether you use Victory pipes and filters or some others. When you change intake and exhaust you need to adjust your AFR otherwise you'll run too lean, which adds heat and can hurt your engine.

There's a long story to be told here about factory AFR settings, but suffice it to say that this is the reason so many of us here (and in Harley land also by the way) have added fuel tuners. If I were to recommend anything to a new bike owner I'd say start with a good fuel tuner as your first add-on. Get the fuel injection system working the way it SHOULD work, not the way the government THINKS it should work. Then add on pipes, intakes, cams...whatever and adjust your fuel tuner accordingly.

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they say bassani has some good 2 into 1 pipes. if you have the money to get a pc-v,pipe, and intake. the gains you get will blow your mind

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I bought the shotguns for my Jackpot, you can install the pipes yourself and then take it to the dealer to have them reprogram the ecu. The pipes should come with a reflash card that you present to the dealer, my dealer charged me $40 for the reflash.

As far as installing the pipes, it's really easy once you get the stock pipes off. Getting the stock pipes off is a bitch, it looks like they use a little silicone on the slip joints and it almost acts like glue. Trying to get the front headpipe off from the rear headpipe is a bitch! My friends and I struggled for an hour trying to separate the two pipes, finally just did what another member recomended; broke out the sawzall! Two minutes and it's gone!

As far as power, everyone is right! Seems its not great for adding horsepower, but I wasn't looking for more power. Just wanted something louder so cars wouldn't change lanes into me or cut me off. I also wanted something slimmer so you could see the custom rims and matching pulley on my Ness Jackpot. A side benefit is that you probably save 20 pounds from the stock pipes, they weigh a ton!

Originally I wanted slash pipes but seems everyone has them, saw the shotguns and it really grew on me. There's a side benefit to the shotguns, here in Hawaii; we sometimes meet in parks and have to park in fields. If you ever have to drive down a gravel lane or park in a field with slash pipes, they will kick up dust all over your bike! When people left the meet, you could tell who had slash pipes by all the dust being kicked up! If you stick to roads and parking lots; not a problem.

Also, you can find good deals on factory pipes on ebay and here, but make sure they are new with the reflash card, if you buy used pipes you need to buy a new card. The card is only good for 1 bike and a new card runs over $100, so make sure you factor that when buying used. Bought my shotguns from a member here, Daveh221, brand new shipped to me for $450; great guy! If you've ever shipped anything to Hawaii, you know how great this deal was!

Hope this helps!

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