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post #1 of 54 (permalink) Old 05-23-2015, 03:36 PM Thread Starter
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As my 2010 Vegas approaches 42,000 miles (68,000kms)
My forks are leaking fairly badly.
I noticed the tell tale smegma rings on the front of the tubes and iwipe it off.
When they strapped the bike down to change the back tyre they commented my seals were blown.
I said leaking, they said if theyre leaking theyre blown.
Yesterday I decided to flush new brake fluud though the front brake system and when I was down there I noted the amount of fork oil running down the back of the fork leg forming a black stain on the caliper lugs!
Looking higher I saw how much oil was actually on the rear of the upper seal cover and the back of the leg.
Im up for anothet fork stripdown and not just a change of fork oil like last time 15,000 kns ago(9000 mile)
Vic fork seal kits include the bushings so I presume they must wear too.
Anyone here done a full fork service on front forks of the Vegastype, including renewing the bushings?

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post #2 of 54 (permalink) Old 05-23-2015, 04:03 PM
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I don't have the miles you do, but I had a fork leaking and cured it with this cheap and easy to use device....
http://www.motionpro.com/motorcycle/partno/08-0395
Or you can make one out of thin plastic. Dirt gets in the oil seal and holds it open enough for oil to leak. Try that first--$5 against $200+. Lift out the dust seal first.
Here's another way: Lift the dust seal and apply whitewall tyre cleaner on the fork, then bounce the front end. I have never tried that, but I'm told it works too.

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I had a leaking fork seal and fixed it for about $5.00. Its called sealmate. There are other companies with different designs but they work the same. They clean the dirt from the seal and it doesnt leak anymore unless the seal is torn. It worked for me.
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Thanks, I'll give it a try

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Kingpin USD Forks
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You may have to try it more than once. It may not clean out all the gunk on the first try. I was kind of unsure if it really fixed the leak till after the second cleaning/scraping. Than i wiped off the fork and rode for a few miles, cleaned it again and it stayed dry. Follow the instructions to reset the seal. Good luck
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Yeah went on our Victory Indian shop ride today, 200 kms through the winding backroads and mountains behind Brisbane. A great ride and counting the 100 kms each way thete and back a decent Sunday ride.
The official ride ended up at a Bribie Island pub for a great feed and refreshments.
I mentioned the forks to the shop manager while we were stopped and he came out to the carpark and we got the wheel up in the air and checked for play in the fork bushings as he said they should still be fine at the 40,000 mile mark.
He suggested I try cleaning out the seal by that method first and then if that dont work, fit new seals.
Good to have these regular social rides and get to know better the fellas that work at the shop and the other riders, theyre a good crew and the rides are always different, and never boring.
Saw some magnificent countryside and spectacular mountain views and the many and varied roads winding through them.

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Lloydz 109"cube big bore
" " 495 cams
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" " timing wheel @4 deg.
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RPW Slash pipes
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Kingpin USD Forks
18" XC front wheel
1 3/4" 'Burleigh Bars'
Stebel air horn
12.106 @110.90mph
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" " VM1 Cams
Home gutted exhaust
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My question is, if a leak has been going on for quite some time, how much fluid has been lost? Victory calls for a specific fluid level in the forks for a reason. Depleted fluid levels, even a seemingly small amount could have a negative impact on fork performance. So even if you manage to stop the leak, you still have no simple way of replenishing the lost fluid.

I rebuilt the forks on my KP before the riding season, it wasn't a difficult job with the help of the shop manual and some creative tool making. While I had it apart (at 32,000 miles), I replaced the steering head bearings. There was nothing wrong with either of these items, but I did it anyways due to my need to keep my machines in a high state of tune. I think the fork performance has improved, it feels firmer and not so "squishy". Also feels more stable over choppy road surfaces. Could this all be in my head? Certainly, but I will role with it.

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My question is, if a leak has been going on for quite some time, how much fluid has been lost? Victory calls for a specific fluid level in the forks for a reason. Depleted fluid levels, even a seemingly small amount could have a negative impact on fork performance. So even if you manage to stop the leak, you still have no simple way of replenishing the lost fluid.

I rebuilt the forks on my KP before the riding season, it wasn't a difficult job with the help of the shop manual and some creative tool making. While I had it apart (at 32,000 miles), I replaced the steering head bearings. There was nothing wrong with either of these items, but I did it anyways due to my need to keep my machines in a high state of tune. I think the fork performance has improved, it feels firmer and not so "squishy". Also feels more stable over choppy road surfaces. Could this all be in my head? Certainly, but I will role with it.
No its not all in your head...I flushed and changed my fork oil 15,000 kms ago to Penrite Full Synthetic 10W, and I added an extra 5mm to the level.
Way I see it judging from the small amount that's on the forks now from a hard 500kms ride and its negligible, hasn't even begun to run off the dust cover yet, and they're losing oil pretty well evenly,
front suspension is still performing well and no ill effects to the handling.
Gonna give the seal scraper idea a go.

Victory Vegas 2010
Lloydz 109"cube big bore
" " 495 cams
" " TorqueTubes
" " timing wheel @4 deg.
" " Primary plate
" " IAV
RPW Slash pipes
PCV
Progressive 465 rear shock
Kingpin USD Forks
18" XC front wheel
1 3/4" 'Burleigh Bars'
Stebel air horn
12.106 @110.90mph
114/123

Victory Cross Country 2010 (106)
Lloyds air filter
" " VM1 Cams
Home gutted exhaust
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BTW, if you have some old 35MM film negatives floating around they work like a champ cleaning out between the seal and the fork leg.

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Look up sealmate and the find an old photo film negative and cut it just like the sealmate. Works great and it's free.

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