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post #1 of 21 (permalink) Old 06-03-2015, 08:28 PM Thread Starter
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Well I finally got my Vic in April (been wanting one since 2011 test ride), went to fire it up yesterday and just heard a >click<, in neutral and 1st gear. Battery is reading 12.5V with ignition on, drops to 11.9-12.1v when pressing the start switch. Cluster and headlights are bright. She's a 2011 XC with 14k miles, previous owner just changed the oil, but its looking pretty greyish.

She's been running just fine, except occasionally would just give me a partial turn over and freeze, but would start up on the next button press or 2.

Did some research on some of the other threads on here. This is what I've tried:

-Confirmed voltage to solenoid.
-Confirmed voltage past solenoid (and to the starter) with start switch pressed.
-Jumped (+) battery terminal to bolt terminal on starter. Nothing happened, not a hum, click, or even an arc/spark.
-Pulled my Corolla beside it and WITH THE ENGINE OFF connected the batteries as if to jump it. Same solitary >click<.

-She moves fine in neutral, but I cannot get her to move in 6th, though I havent tried rolling her down the parking ramp and popping the clutch at 5-10mph b/c I'm afraid of dumping her or further screwing up the problem. I DO hear the fuel pump engange and something whiring behind my right leg when rocking her back in forth in 6th.

I'm going to recheck all the connections in a few minutes, and try grounding the starter case to the (-) terminal of the battery and hitting the start switch. Also might try pulling her back while pressing start.

Any advice would be great, or how to confirm my engine isnt seized. I'm taking/towing her to Stroker's in Dallas tomorrow, where the new starter will be $500ish installed. I'd do it myself (found aftermarkets for ~$100), but I live in an apartment and really don't have a good spot to take off the exhaust and keep it pretty.

Thanks for the help, sorry for the long post.
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woops... i realize that should have read "Seized Engine"
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Any advice would be great, or how to confirm my engine isnt seized.
Take the spark plugs out and roll it in gear. Also clean the battery connections
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I'd remove the spark plugs so you aren't fighting compression.

If the starter is marginal it may rotate the engine (though it sounds as if the starter is dead - I agree with your testing methodology) and if necessary. you will be able to confirm the engine moves by rotating the rear wheel with the bike in gear.

I don't get the "keeping it pretty" bit with the exhaust. I'd trashbag it and stash in my apartment so I didn't leave a bunch of stuff exposed. An exhaust pull is pretty basic. When ever I reinstall an exhaust I use anti-seize on the hardware. If you want to keep your hands clean (and work faster without being interrupted by cleaning them) disposable gloves are outstanding. I grab whatever nitriles are handy at the auto store.

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Good point on the battery connections including ground (ensure they are inspected before installing a new starter) but direct jumping with jumper cables would bypass that issue if you had good contact.

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Do you guys have any experience with aftermarket starters?

The mechanic at Strokers (a very reputable Victory and Chopper centric dealer/shop/saloon, I think they even had their own show on some network at one point) said she'd had nothing but trouble from them.

EDIT: Also, some one made off with lot of my tools, so I'm down to a few basic wrenches, drivers, crescent, etc. No lifts, no jacks, and no sockets. :-P

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Sounds like a starter to me.
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...12.5 Volts is a dead battery....

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...12.5 Volts is a dead battery....

???? Oh... Please explain. My bike reads 12.5 volts everytime I turn the key on. 14 volts while running.
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...12.5 Volts is a dead battery....
12.5 isn't a dead battery
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Weak battery. Maybe it has a bad cell.

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