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Looking at these plugs and from what I have learned I think She is running rich.
But She pops alot at idle when up to temp and between shifts which I believe is a lean condition.
Shes a 2010 CC stock except for Nascar6 mufflers. At least I think the ECU is stock.Cant find a fuel controller and the air filter is def stock papper.
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Yup Rich
What do you mean pops at idel. Do you mean a big rumble.
Your IAV idel air valve might be off. What are RPM's does it idel at.
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Disconnect O≤ sensors. Your bike's running too lean at idle. Also practice not slamming the throttle closed on shifts - try to slowly release the throttle instead of an abrupt close. Given your setup, these two will not eliminate the popping, but they will greatly reduce it.

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Yup Rich
What do you mean pops at idel. Do you mean a big rumble.
Your IAV idel air valve might be off. What are RPM's does it idel at.
Dealer could hook to computer to see whats what.
She idels aroud 900-1000. The sound is more a puff sound. but I think too much.
I'll look up the valve and see if I can find it.
Thanks for the idea.
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edit: The valve is connected and the hose looks almost new. No sign of wear or melting or cracking.
Gonna unplug the sensors and see what that does.

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Disconnect O≤ sensors. Your bike's running too lean at idle. Also practice not slamming the throttle closed on shifts - try to slowly release the throttle instead of an abrupt close. Given your setup, these two will not eliminate the popping, but they will greatly reduce it.
Believe me, I try not to slam the throttle cause Wifey's helmet slams into the back of mine when I do that crap

It doesn't happen all the time so I may be doing it without thinking.
Im still trying to get used to letting the rpm's get around 3000 before I upshift. Totally different than the old Roadstar.

I'll unplug them and see how She runs. After I check the air valve. Just thought it was already rich enough.
Thanks for the help.
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... I'll unplug them and see how She runs. After I check the air valve. Just thought it was already rich enough.
Might be rich at certain RPM, but it's too lean at idle.

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I slamming the throttle shot when i have chick on the back, boobies are soft lol

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I slamming the throttle shot when i have chick on the back, boobies are soft lol

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An after market fuel manager like Lloyd's or power commander pc v would solve all your issues. My 08 JP had an intermittent spit while idling after it was fully warm. Installed a power commander pc 3 and it idled nice and smooth. Also had more throttle responce. My plugs looked the same way as yours.

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Might be rich at certain RPM, but it's too lean at idle.
CR, agree with possible lean but what about a minor exhaust leak??? He does say stock minus nascar6 mufflers which means something could have been loosend during the install. I have heard that a leak from the cans to the muffs can also cause a minor popping.

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