Engine may be gone - Victory Forums - Victory Motorcycle Forum
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
post #1 of 18 (permalink) Old 07-26-2015, 02:55 PM Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Bat Man's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Columbus, Ga
Posts: 151
Garage
Default Engine may be gone

After arriving at work this week I notice my Pin making a lot of racket at idle. It sounds like a chain hitting a piece of tin. Took it home and checked for anything loose. Oil was good. Could not find any exhaust leaks. Plugs looked ok. Placed a rag over each exhaust while it was running and it is defiantly coming from the front cylinder. My first thought was a bad cam tensioner. Found a post about cam tensioner noise. Read a post from Kevin about swapping the cam tensioners to see if the noise moves to the other cylinder. Pulled the front tensioner out, but could not get the tensioner out of the housing. It was moving freely. I did a compression test and got 130 psi on the rear cylinder and 110 on the front. Found another post that ended up being a piston wrist pin retainer, UGH. With the low compression it must be in the cylinder. Does anyone know of anything else I could check before I take it in? I was going to upload a video but cant get my YouTube account to work.

The only mods I have is a stage I flash, Swept pipes with different baffles, the O2ís removed, K&N filter, and IAV. I have a little less than 18K miles.
IMG_0453.jpg

08 Kingpin 8Ball
Bat Man is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 18 (permalink) Old 07-26-2015, 03:57 PM
Senior Member
 
visionjohnny's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: minnesota
Posts: 12,947
Default

110 compression not good. If your dealer doesn't seem smart enough take it down to Kevinx. If your wallet can afford it you might want to think about cams seeing how they will have the motor out of bike.
Do Not Ride It

2008 Vision
Mpls, MN.

Please add your state and model of bike you have. Click user CP @ top of page and then far left click edit signature. Thanks
visionjohnny is offline  
post #3 of 18 (permalink) Old 07-26-2015, 04:20 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Washington State
Posts: 2,243
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bat Man View Post
After arriving at work this week I notice my Pin making a lot of racket at idle. It sounds like a chain hitting a piece of tin. Took it home and checked for anything loose. Oil was good. Could not find any exhaust leaks. Plugs looked ok. Placed a rag over each exhaust while it was running and it is defiantly coming from the front cylinder. My first thought was a bad cam tensioner. Found a post about cam tensioner noise. Read a post from Kevin about swapping the cam tensioners to see if the noise moves to the other cylinder. Pulled the front tensioner out, but could not get the tensioner out of the housing. It was moving freely. I did a compression test and got 130 psi on the rear cylinder and 110 on the front. Found another post that ended up being a piston wrist pin retainer, UGH. With the low compression it must be in the cylinder. Does anyone know of anything else I could check before I take it in? I was going to upload a video but cant get my YouTube account to work.

The only mods I have is a stage I flash, Swept pipes with different baffles, the O2ís removed, K&N filter, and IAV. I have a little less than 18K miles.
Attachment 146474
Just curious did you have the throttle pinned wide open while doing the compression test with both plugs removed. It often makes a significant difference.

presently owned bikes
2014 XC 8 ball that no longer stalls
1993 HD fxrp
1982 HD Sturgis
2009 Honda rebel
co owner
1991 gl1500 A w/ Champion Daytona 2+2 sidecar.
"God works both good and evil in a mans' life and you deal with it as best you can" Somebody..
Joe_ is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #4 of 18 (permalink) Old 07-26-2015, 05:18 PM Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Bat Man's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Columbus, Ga
Posts: 151
Garage
Default

No, I forgot about opening the throttle. I'll check it again. Not sure what are good #'s. I was thinking up towards 150 is that right?
Thanks

08 Kingpin 8Ball
Bat Man is offline  
post #5 of 18 (permalink) Old 07-26-2015, 05:45 PM Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Bat Man's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Columbus, Ga
Posts: 151
Garage
Default

This time I got 190 on the front cylinder and 180 on the rear. That makes me feel a lot better, but I'm not sure where to go from here.

Maybe I need to take another look at the cam tensoiner?

08 Kingpin 8Ball
Bat Man is offline  
post #6 of 18 (permalink) Old 07-26-2015, 07:24 PM Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Bat Man's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Columbus, Ga
Posts: 151
Garage
Default

Here is a sound clip

08 Kingpin 8Ball
Bat Man is offline  
post #7 of 18 (permalink) Old 07-26-2015, 08:08 PM
Super Moderator
 
broggyr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Naugatuck, CT
Posts: 6,343
Garage
Default

The video is coming up as private. You have to go into the video settings (at www.youtube.com) and change to Public or Unlisted



2013 XCT, Boardwalk Blue w/ Vicwrapz
S&S Cams, Lloydz filter & ATS +5, PCV, UD pulley, Alto Red Eagle clutch plates
Madstad Windshield, 5000K HID, TriOvals, Memphis Shields wings, Ultimate seat
JVC KD-X35MDT, PBR300X4, Polk DB6502, DaytonAudio ND140-4 rear
HyperLites, LED driving lights, Lloydz dyno 105+H and 117+T
Arlen Ness blinkers, KlockWerks KlipHanger bars, Avon grips

Spectro Golden 4 20w40 for Victory L.SG424, Kury Sabertooth LEDs
THE FEW, THE PROUD, THE OBSCURE. TTWFO2

Last edited by broggyr; 07-26-2015 at 08:39 PM.
broggyr is offline  
post #8 of 18 (permalink) Old 07-26-2015, 08:31 PM
Lifetime Premium
 
kevinx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: At Southern Motorworx. High Springs Fl
Posts: 2,646
Default

Does the noise go away when you pull in the clutch? Seriously doubt you damaged the engine.

I'm not an asshole...I just type that way
Check us out at Southern Motorworx on FaceBook
https://www.facebook.com/home.php
http://www.southernmotorworx.com/index.html
kevinx is offline  
post #9 of 18 (permalink) Old 07-26-2015, 09:16 PM Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Bat Man's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Columbus, Ga
Posts: 151
Garage
Default

Broggyr
Try again I did not hit publish.


kevinx Does the noise go away when you pull in the clutch?

No It sounds the same with the clutch in.

08 Kingpin 8Ball
Bat Man is offline  
post #10 of 18 (permalink) Old 07-26-2015, 09:46 PM
Super Moderator
 
broggyr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Naugatuck, CT
Posts: 6,343
Garage
Default

Wonder if it's a bad cam chain tensioner. Could that be the cam chain slapping around in there?



2013 XCT, Boardwalk Blue w/ Vicwrapz
S&S Cams, Lloydz filter & ATS +5, PCV, UD pulley, Alto Red Eagle clutch plates
Madstad Windshield, 5000K HID, TriOvals, Memphis Shields wings, Ultimate seat
JVC KD-X35MDT, PBR300X4, Polk DB6502, DaytonAudio ND140-4 rear
HyperLites, LED driving lights, Lloydz dyno 105+H and 117+T
Arlen Ness blinkers, KlockWerks KlipHanger bars, Avon grips

Spectro Golden 4 20w40 for Victory L.SG424, Kury Sabertooth LEDs
THE FEW, THE PROUD, THE OBSCURE. TTWFO2
broggyr is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the Victory Forums - Victory Motorcycle Forum forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in










Thread Tools Search this Thread
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Posting Rules  
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome