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Not sure if ya'll can see all the details with the document being resized. Came back abnormal and close to critical. There was 4,329 miles on this oil. The Viscosity did break down BUT it wasn't the oil's fault. Notice the orange color, 3.7% fuel contamination! Holy crap! Also the Nickel traces were in the normal range but barely. Comments suggest possible valves, stems or guides as the culprit. Silicon was in the normal range but like the Nickel...barely. The butt load of fuel in my oil is a pretty clear indication of a fuel leak...now that I think about it, I've had hard starts in the morning where it cranks and cranks and cranks then finally catches but smells of fuel. Thought it could be due to the harsh cold I been riding in but now the light bulb comes on.

This analysis scares me so I took my bike to the dealer within a couple hours of seeing this report. I handed them a copy of the results and they'll go through the bike.

Folks, this is why oil analysis can be $ well spent.



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Not sure if ya'll can see all the details with the document being resized. Came back abnormal and close to critical. There was 4,329 miles on this oil. The Viscosity did break down BUT it wasn't the oil's fault. Notice the orange color, 3.7% fuel contamination! Holy crap! Also the Nickel traces were in the normal range but barely. Comments suggest possible valves, stems or guides as the culprit. Silicon was in the normal range but like the Nickel...barely. The butt load of fuel in my oil is a pretty clear indication of a fuel leak...now that I think about it, I've had hard starts in the morning where it cranks and cranks and cranks then finally catches but smells of fuel. Thought it could be due to the harsh cold I been riding in but now the light bulb comes on.

This analysis scares me so I took my bike to the dealer within a couple hours of seeing this report. I handed them a copy of the results and they'll go through the bike.

Folks, this is why oil analysis can be $ well spent.



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I had high fuel because of a bad throttle positioning sensor.

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I had high fuel because of a bad throttle positioning sensor.
I don't think you can get fuel in your OIL from a bad throttle sensor, can you? You may get poor fuel economy but fuel getting into the oil itself would seem to be indicative of other malady's (like piston or value seals, right? Vindex did the right thing taking it to his dealer for review of the engine itself.




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To rich will make it sucked into and around the rings , so yes a bad sensor can run it to rich..

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lets us know what your dealer finds
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I was thinking leaky injectors?


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That would be my guess as well. Like I mentioned earlier, sometimes when its cold (first start) it would crank and crank then finally start. I'd smell fuel. I've also noticed black smoke on start up. Not sure what's normal and what's not. On a car, that's a sure sign fuel is sitting in your cylinders and 9 times out of 10 it's the fuel injector leaking down.

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That would be my guess as well. Like I mentioned earlier, sometimes when its cold (first start) it would crank and crank then finally start. I'd smell fuel. I've also noticed black smoke on start up. Not sure what's normal and what's not. On a car, that's a sure sign fuel is sitting in your cylinders and 9 times out of 10 it's the fuel injector leaking down.
A compression or leakdown test would help with diagnostics. It would also tell you if any damage has been done to the cylinder walls.

You mention Nickel from your analysis. Does any one know if the cylinders are Nicasiled?

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A compression or leakdown test would help with diagnostics. It would also tell you if any damage has been done to the cylinder walls.

You mention Nickel from your analysis. Does any one know if the cylinders are Nicasiled?

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Yeah, my dealer's tech had that thought going through his head too. He said they'll do compression tests on it when they're going through the bike.

I'm a little bit down over this. One because my bike is at the dealer again and I'm not going to be able to ride it today. The other, I just past 5,000 miles and I've had the cruise control module replaced under warranty (they redesigned it to be completely water proof and I have the new version now), the rear pulley replaced under warranty (all good now), and now this...whatever this turns out to be. 5,000 miles! It's bull! With all my goodies, I'm near 20k in this bike. I'm very disappointed with the trouble I'm having thus far and I hope this will be my last issue for a LONG time.

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