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I have recently purchased the Maximus and Tune from 801 and am waiting for the wideband sensors for the dynotune. One thing that puzzles me a bit is Ryan is saying I don't need to do cams in my Vegas.

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OH sorry, I wasn't clear enough. Ryan from 801 motorworx. He's a remote programmer out of Utau. I have very good results already from a base tune he put in the Maximus just until the wide band sensor kit shows up. But am a bit puzzled by his response to putting in the Lloydz cams.

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Oh, okay, yes I've heard of the Maximus but am not familiar with it but I bet I know someone who is. On the forum here and at thevog.net a guy who goes by half_crazy would probably know for sure. I just remembered KevinX out of Florida was doing some dyno experimentation with it a while back. Maybe he knows.

I'm with you though; it's basic common knowledge that cams will help the engine breath better and give more hp than stock cams. I can't believe a tune will do more or even as much. I wonder if it just makes more work for him so he tries to discourage people from installing them. Maybe they don't work well with those tuners.

Something doesn't smell right so I'll be listening to find out how this one goes.
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I have recently purchased the Maximus and Tune from 801 and am waiting for the wideband sensors for the dynotune. One thing that puzzles me a bit is Ryan is saying I don't need to do cams in my Vegas. After his tune, I will not feel the need for them. I told him I have Lloydz VM-1 cams on my shelf ready to go in but he's saying I won't need them. I know the guy knows his stuff but, I'm questioning this...... Anybody have an opinion on this?
there's a difference between 'wanting cams' and 'needing cams'.

This Ryan dude maybe knows you real well, has ridden with you, and knows you short shift and just plod along happily like some riders do.
Never exceeding 4000rpm and certainly never going anywhere near the rev limiter.
Maybe he knows you just bar-hop and never get out of town much
In that case Ryan is possibly correct in his observation.

On the other hand, if you're a more spirited rider , who realizes the fact that these engines love to rev, and are somewhat hampered by restrictive. exhaust, intake, and soft cams so as to pass EPA tests.
If you like to wind it up a bit and ride your Victory the way God intended you to, then you need cams.
If you've ever ridden a bike with cams then you'll be craving them and salivating at the thought of getting them.

I bet Ryans never ridden a Victory that's been cammed and is breathing properly.

I didn't think I needed cams either...till I got 'em
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I didn't think I needed cams either...till I got 'em
Agree... Since when does some other guy know what you "want" or "need"?

No one really "needs" a motorcycle at all, do they?

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Exactly . He knows I ride the bike hard and want all I can get out of this 106 with my Thor pipe and torque tubes.

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He sounds like some sort of control freak.
Just do it...
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