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post #1 of 30 (permalink) Old 10-03-2018, 06:47 AM Thread Starter
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When I purchased my bike, the previous owner removed the baffles from the exhaust. Last October in Daytona, I had the Lloydz air filter and timing wheel installed. The bike ran great until the cold temperatures of winter hit. The bike no longer liked long trips on the highway. When I exit, I have to keep the throttle turned about half way just to keep her running. As this past summer brought warmer temperatures, this issue went away.
I am pretty sure this was caused by not having the bike tuned. In my area, I keep seeing recommendations for Throttle City (Levittown PA). I've talked to him and he will install the PCV and put the bike on the dyno. I have no doubts in his ability to get the bike tuned, but as he mostly works on Harleys, is there anything I should mention to him or have him do while he has the bike?
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Pull it in 5th gear. It tunes like anything else.
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Pull it in 5th gear. It tunes like anything else.
Thanks @half_crazy, I was hoping to get your opinion. I have heard that you can get the speed restriction removed and also increase the redline cutout. Is this stuff I will have to ask for, or does that just happen when the PCV is installed?

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Thanks @half_crazy, I was hoping to get your opinion. I have heard that you can get the speed restriction removed and also increase the redline cutout. Is this stuff I will have to ask for, or does that just happen when the PCV is installed?
You can raise the rev limit to 6000 rpm in the PC-V with a click of the mouse. The speed limiter cannot be done away with using the PC-V. That will require either a re-flash from Lloydz to your ECU or a tuner like the Maximus or Power Vision.
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I'd put in new plugs and if possible new plug wires.
I don't understand the stalling in cold weather. Maybe bad Idle Air Valve

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I'd put in new plugs and if possible new plug wires.
I don't understand the stalling in cold weather. Maybe bad Idle Air Valve
It's LEAN AS HELL. Runs OK when it's hot out, but when it gets cold it doesn't get enough fuel to run right.
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It's LEAN AS HELL. Runs OK when it's hot out, but when it gets cold it doesn't get enough fuel to run right.
That is exactly my thoughts. It was fine until I added air without giving her more fuel.

I stopped by Throttle City on my way home. I prepurchased the PCV from him. In out talks, he said he didn't agree with a timing wheel on stock cams, that I wouldn't benefit. Honeslty, I tend to agree with him as I really didn't feel any difference after it was put on. No big deal either way.
Please help me get this part straight Victory family. He recommends having the cats pulled out of the exhaust as well. From what I remember, I should leave them in for the back pressure. Or maybe I'm remembering leaving the cats in on a stock tune. He will tune the bike either way, but strongly recommends pulling the cats out. So what does everyone here recommend? On my setup (Lloydz timing wheel at +4, Lloydz air cleaner and the baffles removed) do I pull the cats before tuning? YES or NO?

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That is exactly my thoughts. It was fine until I added air without giving her more fuel.

I stopped by Throttle City on my way home. I prepurchased the PCV from him. In out talks, he said he didn't agree with a timing wheel on stock cams, that I wouldn't benefit. Honeslty, I tend to agree with him as I really didn't feel any difference after it was put on. No big deal either way.
Please help me get this part straight Victory family. He recommends having the cats pulled out of the exhaust as well. From what I remember, I should leave them in for the back pressure. Or maybe I'm remembering leaving the cats in on a stock tune. He will tune the bike either way, but strongly recommends pulling the cats out. So what does everyone here recommend? On my setup (Lloydz timing wheel at +4, Lloydz air cleaner and the baffles removed) do I pull the cats before tuning? YES or NO?

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As I understand it from many posts and threads on here the Ally frame XCs like yours are better with the cats left in.
And the steel frame bikes like my Vegas are better with them out.
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I can't beleive it. I'm THAT guy. I didn't know the cats thing was such a debated topic and unknowingly start another "oil" thread. I'll understand if the mods revoke my membership.

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I can't beleive it. I'm THAT guy. I didn't know the cats thing was such a debated topic and unknowingly start another "oil" thread. I'll understand if the mods revoke my membership.
You're officially on the radar
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