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post #1 of 16 (permalink) Old 06-02-2019, 01:03 PM Thread Starter
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I have a 2012 XCT that has about 40,000 miles. It has the original clutch and has never had clutch work done on it. I recently gummed up the stock clutch cable by putting a solvent into the cable. I replaced the stock cable with a Barnett cable.

For a couple of years I have been running an EZ clutch (clutch pull assist) that reduces the strength needed to pull in the clutch lever. For about the first year, this worked fine. For about the last year, I could not get the clutch to work properly with this EZ clutch. I adjusted the clutch and it was either too loose which would give me gears clattering together when I downshifted with the clutch lever pulled fully in or it would be too tight (i.e. not enough freeplay) and the clutch would slip - especially going up steep hills with turns (not a good place for the clutch to slip). I could also see the slip if I got into 4th or 5th gear at a slower speed of 30-40 mph and gave it a strong throttle twist. The tach would spin up without a commensurate increase in speed.

So I took the EZ clutch off and it is easy to adjust the clutch to get no slip and no gear clatter. However, the force needed to pull the clutch is very high. I guess I'm a woose. I went on a 180 mile ride today almost all of it twisty mountain roads with very frequent clutching and shifting and by the end, I could not even squeeze the clutch because my left hand was so fatigued. I took to using my fingers like a claw and pulling back on my entire are to shift. Obviously, this does not lend itself to proper quick shifting.

My wife and I have four 2012 XCT bikes and all four have the EX Clutch. Only on one of the bikes (mine in N. Carolina) am I unable to adjust the clutch with an EZ clutch installed. The other three bikes work great with the EZ clutch installed and the clutch lever pulls "like butter". So this background finally brings me to my question.

Would it be likely that replacing the clutch plates and steels would allow the clutch to work with the EZ clutch installed? I have all the plates, steels, seals, and gasket to do this but don't want to waste time and parts if this will not allow me to use the EZ clutch to reduce the strength required to pull the clutch lever.

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post #2 of 16 (permalink) Old 06-02-2019, 01:43 PM
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Will have to compare our clutch pull in July. I don't find it difficult without the ez pull. I did have the same problem with clutch not adjusting correctly with the ez pull installed. It does wear on my wrist and thunb on long rides. I think it's just how I hold grip and pull.

I'll watch your thread for solution to issue in case it happens to me. I'm a few thousand miles behind you at the moment.
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I doubt very much that changing the plates would make it easier to pull.
Vic has a very stiff clutch spring to prevent slippage. I did some research back a year or so and could not find a weaker spring to use

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Then why do three of my four XCT bikes not have a problem with the EZ clutch pull and only one of them has the problem? That is the part that is confusing to me.

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I had the Barnett cable and an EZ-Pull and loved it. Always did a pre ride cable check and never a problem. Other Vic riders envied my easy clutch pull.

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When I got my XTC in 2011 I just got use to the clutch being hard. I never even considered an easy clutch, as I didnít want to be adjusting it constantly. I almost got one of those spring things to build hand strength, but I got over it.
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@Vinish I had the same issue as you. I bought the bike in 2016, and had the clutch replaced with a Barnett Scorpion, and a Barnett HE cable (long story short, the "dealership" I bought it from buggered the clutch adjustment, used the wrong oil, and the plates burned on the first long ride, and longer limp home). The bike has always had a super stiff pull, even before the clutch swap. I finally got the EZ pull working to my liking this year with a set of LSL adjustable levers to get more cable travel (it was the last resort or sell the bike, so I ate the $300). I still keep an eye on the free play, but I haven't had to adjust it yet, and it's been a few weeks.
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I noticed your comment about since you were riding in the mountains you were having to shift alot. All my riding is in the mountains (live over the state line from your NC home) and one thing I have learned about my XR in the last 7 years is that 3rd gear is where I keep mine at for the twisty riding. The gear is wide enough to handle most of the speeds you will encounter and has no problems getting into high rpm's.
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My wife and I have four 2012 XCT bikes and all four have the EX Clutch. Only on one of the bikes (mine in N. Carolina) am I unable to adjust the clutch with an EZ clutch installed. The other three bikes work great with the EZ clutch installed and the clutch lever pulls "like butter".
Do you have the same bars on all of the bikes and are they and the levers all adjusted to the same place? For example, if the clutch lever is too high or too low relative to your wrist position you end up putting a lot of strain on your forearm.

Also, with regard to the one bike that you have trouble with the ez-pull, is it possible that bike has a different routing of the clutch cable?

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I noticed your comment about since you were riding in the mountains you were having to shift alot. All my riding is in the mountains (live over the state line from your NC home) and one thing I have learned about my XR in the last 7 years is that 3rd gear is where I keep mine at for the twisty riding. The gear is wide enough to handle most of the speeds you will encounter and has no problems getting into high rpm's.
Wow, we must ride in very different mountains. I ride on twisties where there is such a tight 180 degree turn and uphill that I have to be in 1st gear to pull out of the hole and I am doing less than 5 mph. Then, on the same road, it will open up to a stretch where I am doing 55 mph and I want to be in at least 4th gear.

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