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post #1 of 29 (permalink) Old 10-06-2019, 09:10 AM Thread Starter
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Default Electricity flows to the bike intermittently.

The bike is a 2009 Victory Vision with 80k on it. Only modification is reverse and a power line leading to a plug for a trickle charger or electric clothing.

Ran the bike for a couple of hours that day pulled up in the driveway shut it off and then it would not come back on. It flashed a slight light on the dash showing the neutral light then nothing.

It now comes on intermittently when the ignition is in the on position.

I assumed it was the ignition switch. Removed disassembled and lubed it up (ordered a new one out of fear they would stop making them) and pulled it back in. Bike lit up like it supposed to, fuel pump came on, thought I fix it. Wrong.

After some additional reassembly I tried turning the bike on again and nothing but the sight lighting of some of the insterments. Checked voltage at the battery it was fine (12.9 volts). Voltage at the switch was fine and across the switch it was fine. Interestingly when switched off the pink and brown lines which should read 0 (I assume) are showing 4.2 volts.

I unplugged the ignition switch and jumper across the contacts. Bike did nothing again. I started checking voltage. Across the switch was fine so I began checking fuses. Really did nothing to move any wires and low and behold the bike came on (ie the lights came on and the fuel pump fired up). I moved a few wires and the some parts of the exposed harness but could not get the bike to loose power.

Something very strange is happening and I am lost as to what to check next.

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I can offer no help but encouragement to keep looking. Intermittent problems are the hardest to solve.

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Does a schematic and wiring diagram exist? If yes, that should be a big help.
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Thanks for the encouragement vinish. By the way we were just down in your town last month. Took a trip to Lake Lure and did some riding and investigating the possibility of moving to the area. Kind of concluded it was a bit busy around Ashville and expensive. We are now looking at Bristol and Johnson City since I have a job opportunity in that area. We also concluded that a vision and yamaha venture are not the ideal bikes for a lot of those roads. 15-20 mph blind, decreasing radius turns are great on a small sport bike but not these two beasts.

As far as the wire diagram, the shop manual has them. I am tracing wires from the switch to the next block connector but getting at some of them requires some work. The fact that it came on and them went off tells me something along with the voltage on the other side of the switch when it is in the off position. I am thinking some other hot line off the battery must be shorting out but so far the battery is holding a charge. I also do not see any other wires off the battery other than the heavy line to the starter solenoid. I am going to swap out the battery today and that will give me a look around in that area for something. I am fairly sure I should not be seeing any voltage on the pink and brown lines leading away from the starter switch when the switch is off and even disconnected.
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Sometimes the battery has the correct voltage but is still bad because it lacks the amps.

If you have a battery jump pack you could give that a try or carefully jumping it with jumper cables.
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Sounds like a loose connection to me.

A loose connection can create a high resistance point in the circuit that would mimic the symptoms you're seeing. Intermittent low voltage conditions. Not a short. From what I read in your post, your battery is holding its charge.

The loose connection can be from a worn relay. Breaking contact causes an arc which eventually reduces the contact area between contacts. From what I've seen on my newly acquired Hammer, turning the ignition key closes the relay. Haven't looked at the wiring diagram, but maybe try removing the main lighting relay and see what happens? This can also occur at the ignition switch.
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Give me a shout if you have any questions about the area. Yes, Asheville is expensive and crowded but surrounding areas are neither crowded or expensive. I live about 8 miles west of Hendersonville and it is neither crowded or expensive. I ride a Victory Cross country Tour and I love the tight twisty roads in this area. The riding within 20 miles of me is better than the Tail of the Dragon.

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I remember a few years ago I was riding in Northern Arizona. It was early summer, but cold. Rain and snow. I stopped to do some filming (snow is always wonderful for us desert dwellers). Got back on the bike (M109R), and it wouldn't start. Not a click. Nothing.

I pulled out my tool roll and stopped and thought a minute. Then I removed the cover to the switches on the left hand. It had water, so I blew it out, put it back together, and the bike started right up.

Your main lighting runs through this switch cluster. Maybe want to check this? Could be you have a foreign, conductive object that is shunting the current from the lighting circuit to ground. Intermittent due to the handlebar movement and vibration. It would explain your symptoms.

Hopefully this anecdote is useful.
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@BlackhawkFan has a good suggestion. I periodically blow-out my switches with contact cleaner...(like once a month). If I don't, I notice funky things starting to happen, like one side turn signals not coming on, dash lights blinking or even the headlight going out. If I keep the switches clean and dry I have no issues.

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I remember eading about the OEM relays or C/B I guess it is being not so good. I replaced mine with a good quality BUSS, and cleaned the battery terminals while I was in there. Agree the battery may be source. I came home from a 3000+ mile trip and next day went to start bike and lights, but no action. Then no lights. Ended up being the battery. Load test it, if you dont have the equipment swing by one of the auto stores. Hope you get it solved.

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