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Thanks in advance for any help or suggestions. I have a 07 Hammer. While reading some threads about HID headlights it occurred to me that when I turn on my Hi beams my low beam turns off. If I use the momentary feature of the headlight switch both Hi and Low turn on. Is this normal? I know this sounds like a stupid question and perhaps it is ignorance on my part but this is the way my bike has been since I got it 4 years ago. I am planning on ordering the HID hi and low kit from CrossRoads and this became a concern after doing some reading on the forum. Thanks.

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You are correct. That is the way my Kingpin's headlight works as well.

It is a problem to turn HID off and on often, it shortens the bulb and ignitor life and HID takes about 10 seconds to achieve full brightness (warm up) so they make poor lights for switching on/off.

This is why OEM systems use either bi-xenon projectors with a cutoff shield or they use HID low beams that remain on when a halogen high beam is turned on.

I just ordered the HID kit for my Kingpin but only the low beam. I rarely use the high beam anyway, I like the wider spread of the low beam, just aim it up a bit so you can see far enough up the road to safely ride at night...if cars get blinded...hey that is better than being hit because they can't see you!
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It is a problem to turn HID off and on often, it shortens the bulb and ignitor life and HID takes about 10 seconds to achieve full brightness (warm up) so they make poor lights for switching on/off.
With lifetime warranty on the bulbs, I would worry about other things in life, but that's just my 2 cents.

Also, regarding the warming up of the HIDs, keep in mind that as soon as you turn on the HID light, it already is brighter than the stock halogen. It continues to get brighter as it fully ignites, over the first 5-6 seconds of operation. But by no means is it dimmer than its halogen counterpart at any given time.

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I just ordered the HID kit for my Kingpin but only the low beam. I rarely use the high beam anyway, I like the wider spread of the low beam, just aim it up a bit so you can see far enough up the road to safely ride at night...if cars get blinded...hey that is better than being hit because they can't see you!
I strongly recommend not pointing your headlight upwards. Please aim it per user manual's instructions. Not only you risk blinding on-coming traffic (which you said you did not care about), but you also lift portion of the light meant to hit the pavement in front of your bike, leaving you with less visibility (which I assume you do care about).

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Plus, if you ever ride with people they will not appreciate you behind them. I ride with a guy that aims his headlight high for the same reason, he always gets the honor of leading even if he doesn't know where we're going lol.

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I bought my bike 4/20/12. I have never turned my low beams on.

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I bought my bike 4/20/12. I have never turned my low beams on.
So you've had your bike for over a year and have never started the bike?

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Would it hurt anything on a 07 hammer to have both the high beam and low beam on at the same time ? Say if I were to alter the switch so both would operate when the high beam was on. As it is now the high beam goes farther down the road but it is not very bright. Thanks for the replies guys.

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Would it hurt anything on a 07 hammer to have both the high beam and low beam on at the same time ? Say if I were to alter the switch so both would operate when the high beam was on. As it is now the high beam goes farther down the road but it is not very bright. Thanks for the replies guys.
Possible melting of the plastic reflector. Too much heat, which is why they probably have them alternated. One of the main drawbacks of the halogen lights is heat - along with low light output to power consumption, and short bulb life. Not to deviate from the subject, but if you do have my HIDs on, they burn 70-80F cooler than the stock halogen bulbs, so in that case you might be able to get away with such mod.

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Thanks Crossroads, I will be ordering my HID from you in the next day or so. Other than the heat concern you mentioned would the extra power draw be a concern? I was told today from a dealer that the 05 Hammer he had in the shop both Hi and low beams came on when the Hi beam was activated so I did the modification to the switch but I haven't had it on for longer than a few minutes or so. I don't enjoy riding at night like I used too. I guess my eyes are getting old. Was hoping brighter lights would help.

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