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I am looking at two older 05 Victory 8 balls with lots of modifications.

I have talked both sellers down to 9,000. I need some opinions as to sound whether or not either of these bikes need to be tuned.

I am afraid of buying a 92 motor, over the 100 or even 106.

Is there any significant changes over these motors that would make me really need a bigger or newer victory motor.

I love both these bikes almost equally. I'm just looking for some extra opinions on performance and tuning. And just advise in general.

First we have this bike there is a video in the add too listen to how this bike sounds:

http://seattle.craigslist.org/est/mcy/3786865521.html




Then there is this bike:



http://portland.craigslist.org/clc/mcy/3784999294.html

There is also a video at the bottom of this add.

Any advise as to how they sound or whether or not I really need to look for a newer more stock motor would be helpful.
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Can't really tell, as neither owner revs them up. Both bikes are idling way too low. The first bike sounds like it has no baffles at all in the exhaust... Those Slash pipes without baffles are terrible on torque loss.

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Can't really tell, as neither owner revs them up. Both bikes are idling way too low.
I know huh, I totally 100% agree. I'm like give em some gas already.


I love both bikes but I can get a 2012 High Ball for the same price with minimal mods mostly stock. 9,500 for the 2012 High Ball.

Or 9,000 for either of these bikes. I know it would cost me 1,000's to get the mods close to either of those bikes.

Are the mods worth the decrease in years and performance? I simply cannot make up my mind.

I have a question for you, how hard is it to turn the idle up on these vics?

I currently own a vulcan 900 and its as simple as a high speed idle nute. I can turn mine up while riding.
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So who are you? A rider? A shade tree wrench? A guy with enough disposable income to know what you want and be willing to pay a local wrench to provide it?
Just saying I buy bikes like those to sell and sell quick. That guy with the clutch lever is taking a thousand dollar hit over a hundred dollar fix.
I love guys like that. By the looks of that lever the wall in his garage was horizontal and he pushed the the lever into it somewhere over 30 MPH. So if he's telling me a little white lie, I am that much more inclined to chop a little bit more off the price.
You got the other guy down 1500 off his fairy tale. Good work. That's how this stuff works.
Anyway, buying a fully customized bike has a fatal drawback to a guy with a tool box. All that work is somebody elses. It either
A. is not up to the standards of the new owner which means it is a bunch of parts that you just bought and are just as quickly stripping off and piling in the corner or
B. is top shelf stuff well implemented which deprives you of any common sense reason to make it your own.

If you buy it for resale, buy the black for a couple of reasons.
1. It's black. Always a good seller. The other bike is saleable but the market for wild paint is less than for badass black.
2. It's got easy stuff to fix. The owner wants it gone or he would fix that stuff himself. That kind of thinking would get me to show up at his door with 85 in my hand, maybe 80 with the other five in my pocket JIC.

If I was buying for keeps and planned to go custom, I would buy the '12. It's new, not somebody else's project/headache, has warranty, is a clean slate to work from. Not that either of the hot rods wouldn't be a nice addition, like you say, they got parts. Thing is it's not likely they are the parts I would have chosen but these are just the musings of a guy with a tool box.

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I know huh, I totally 100% agree. I'm like give em some gas already.


I love both bikes but I can get a 2012 High Ball for the same price with minimal mods mostly stock. 9,500 for the 2012 High Ball.

Or 9,000 for either of these bikes. I know it would cost me 1,000's to get the mods close to either of those bikes.

Are the mods worth the decrease in years and performance? I simply cannot make up my mind.

I have a question for you, how hard is it to turn the idle up on these vics?

I currently own a vulcan 900 and its as simple as a high speed idle nute. I can turn mine up while riding.

The thing about modifying a bike and reselling it is that you can never expect to get the money back. IMO I wouldn't pay over 7k for either one. There are too many deals out there to want to over pay. To give you a reference point I bought my 07 Hammer in March of 2012 the bike had 7,500 miles and was modified with Ness bars, grips, wires, full exhaust, custom tune, fuel controller, and some other stuff and I paid $8,000 for the bike. If it were me I would go with the Highball

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I have a question for you, how hard is it to turn the idle up on these vics?
On the pre-2008 bikes there is an idle speed screw on the throttle linkage. The idle usually drops when the throttle bodies are dirty.

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For $9K I'd let both of these owners keep their bikes and buy a new one with a warranty for just a little more money. Then make the modifications you want instead of relying on what others have done.

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With that price difference I would say buy a new one and make it your own, and potentially avoid someone else's headache.


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Plus you get the 106" engine.


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Good info guys.

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I am only buying to make it my own. This would be to buy and keep. I don't have a lot of extra money. As a matter of fact this is the most I have ever spent on a bike. I'm kinda nervous and didn't want to go from a 06 Vulcan 900 to a 05 anything. I do like the modifications of both bikes and would do them if the money warranted it. That is the only reason I was looking at that old of a year.

I will probably keep looking, the guy with the 10,000 dollar 2012 High Ball is probably going to be selling his bike today. I would of loved that bike. I'm selling my Vulcan 900 this weekend. And I have approx 6,000 in savings. Leaving me broke.

But all in all, I'm all about the newer bikes. I was just nervous since I spent 3,000 in upgrades on my Vulcan over the last year. And new buying a new bike with stock parts would be another major project to upgrade.

Here is the Vulcan I'm leaving for a new Vic:

https://post.craigslist.org/manage/3758507349/dgzrn

Thanks to all you guys for help and advice in buying a new bike.
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