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post #1 of 18 (permalink) Old 04-09-2014, 09:13 PM Thread Starter
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Last Friday I had a Harley D407 Rear tire and Elite 3 installed and balanced on my 2008 Vegas at the Victory dealer about an hour from my house. Paid $167.00 plus tax for the front tire plus $34.00 to remove front tire with mount and balance included since I bought the tire from them. Rear Harley D407 was $34.00 to remove from bike and $50.00 more for mount and balance since I did not buy the tire from them. Also had state inspection done $12.50 and a voltage regulator installed for $195.00 plus tax. Spent $509.00 at the dealer. Not a big deal just wanted bike ready for spring. Tech did all the work in one hour and 15 minutes including a test ride. He has worked on my bike before and he is quick. Gave the tech a tip and thanked him. On the way home 55 mph tops as it was cold thought I felt a strange vibration. Next day took it out and felt this same new vibration. Called the dealer and asked what they thought about Dyna Beads and or Ride On. Dealer said they don't use them and also said if I used a product like ride on they charge an automatic $20.00 more per tire change. Took bike out today and got up to 75mph and problem is more pronounced. Noticed rear tire green dot is about 18 inches away from valve stem. Two ounces of weight exactly where dot is. One ounce on front tire green dot 1 to 2 inches from valve stem. No weights on wheels from factory and never had a vibration before. Olds tires wore evenly with no scalloping. So I called Dealer back and said there was a definite issue with the bike and vibration. We talked. I am bringing it in tomorrow morning for the tech to ride it again. Dealer said if it was the front wheel it shouldn't be a problem he could rebalance it. Told him I believed it was the rear tire because of reasons stated above and vibration is more in the seat and less in the bars. Dealer said they would determine how bad it was but if it was the rear tire it takes a lot of time and we would have to discuss it. Remember tech spent a total of one hour and fifteen minutes total on bike the first time. I know because I got to dealer at 10 AM and my credit card receipt after being billed out says 11:18 AM. Dealer in the past has been a good Dealer and hope I feel the same way after tomorrow. I realize I did not buy the rear tire from them but I paid $84.00 to have it removed from bike mounted and balanced so if it is wrong as I believe it is I don't feel as though I should have to pay more to have it done properly. I will keep you posted after my trip to the Dealer tomorrow. What do you think?

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good tech always mount the dot at the valve stem.
here is a link telling you how to find out when tire was made.
wounder if axle nut was torque down to the right spec.
maybe bad wheel bearings

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Nah,a REAL good tech would mount it with the words "Harley-Davidson" on the inside.

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you don't think there could be an issue with mixing the 407 with the elite III do you? when I put my 407 on, I also put a 408 on the front. never had any vibration. just throwing out thoughts here.

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The Elite front and 407 rear is a very common combination. I doubt it would cause any issues. I plan to be running this combination in the near future myself, so I will be interested in other comments.

Sounds as if your dealer is a good one, hope they follow through, as they should, in my opinion.

I would check my tires for out of round conditions. Just get it off the ground and spin it, with some method for holding a pointer close to the tire center outside edge.

Do you know what method of balancing they used? That sure seems to be a huge amount of weight, on both tires, frankly.

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I had a 407 on my CCT. Had to buy it in a pinch. Tire was fine but burned up in around 10,000 miles.
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I recently installed Avon Cobras, replacing the original E3s that had vibrations too. Even put Ride-On in the E3s and I still got hammered at higher speeds. What a difference! The Cobras are smoother and gripier. Won't go back to Dunlop.

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Go back to dealer and have them recheck the balance or even get differing tire

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Thanks for all the replies and ideas. Sorry to take so long with response. On my way to dealer to get bike checked got called for emergency shut down for work and have been working 12 hour days plus 2 hours travel time. First of all I was mistaken as I have a half ounce of weight on front tire and 1 ounce on rear tire. Upon arrival, the dealer himself took bike for a ride and said he didn't notice anything out of the ordinary but said he wanted his tech to ride it. Justin took it for a ride, got it up to 85 mph and said he did not notice anything abnormal. We discussed it awhile and he said it was possible I was feeling something they were not as I was use to my bike. Justin said he did have some customers that use Dyna Beads and they seem to work fine. Told him I would ride the bike some more and might try dyna beads to see if they would make a difference. Before that I am going to play with the air pressure in the tires to see if I notice any changes with the bike. Had a quick nice ride home knowing there was no Major problem to address with the bike. Like I said it just feels different, not a major shake or anything just a slight vibration. Since then it has been sitting in the garage as I work my 12 hour days. On the plus side. the bike seems to handle much better when it comes to tar snakes. Ride safe!!!

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Not sure what tire you replaced them with, but I have noticed if you change brands of tires, you get a different ride--some are much stiffer and magnify imperfections in the road. There is a ton of difference between Perrelli and Metzler in ride "feel". Could that be the issue? Tire pressure also makes a big difference. Just thinking out lould with the keyboard.

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