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post #1 of 12 (permalink) Old 04-21-2014, 06:45 PM Thread Starter
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Before everybody starts telling me it is not worth the money--let me come clean right now.

1- I am not buying the Stage 1 package. Just the slip on pipes and no flash card or anything else.

I am still running the stock exhaust on my 2012 XR, but I am buying a Stage One set of pipes local for almost nothing. I am not looking for "lould" or "extreme high performance". I am looking for a little more noise and change in tone over stock and a little better breathing for the engine. I also plan on the Lloyds air filter and PC5 when I get around to putting them on.

So, my question has to do with how much better does the S1 pipes "breathe" over the stock exhaust. I am going to buy them anyway because of the different sound and super cheap price, but I want to know how much of a performance advantage are the stage 1 slip ons?

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You'll pick up a little power. Instead of wait for all of what we have to say go to the man Rylan and get the correct answers to what you want to do.

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i dont think there is much difference in power from just stock to stage one slip ons i think you will feel it when you get the pcv and filter, they will all work together.


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You may even lose a horse or two with the slipons. I could tell a slight power loss when I put my WD baffled on and it popped like crazy. They say we have dumb computers on these bikes but a month or so of riding the popping became less and the power seem to have smoothed out.

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Before everybody starts telling me it is not worth the money--let me come clean right now.

1- I am not buying the Stage 1 package. Just the slip on pipes and no flash card or anything else.

I am still running the stock exhaust on my 2012 XR, but I am buying a Stage One set of pipes local for almost nothing. I am not looking for "lould" or "extreme high performance". I am looking for a little more noise and change in tone over stock and a little better breathing for the engine. I also plan on the Lloyds air filter and PC5 when I get around to putting them on.

So, my question has to do with how much better does the S1 pipes "breathe" over the stock exhaust. I am going to buy them anyway because of the different sound and super cheap price, but I want to know how much of a performance advantage are the stage 1 slip ons?
They "breathe" just fine. It is essentially a straight pipe from the cat in the header back. It is nothing like the metallic maze in a stock pipe.

It is true that at the very top end of the rev range, the stock configuration puts out a hair more power than the Stage 1 configuration, but everywhere throughout the rest of the rpm range, you will pick up power with the Stage 1. But that's with the whole Stage 1 enchilada. What it does without the air filter and FI map change is anyone's guess.

As for the sound, have a listen for yourself. First part of the vid is cruising sound, then I rev it up a little going through a couple corners, finally, I get off the bike and just rev it up a few times.

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Kevinx had this to say about stock and S1
he said stock gives you torque at bottom end where as S1's will give you power on top end.
Either way you get some benefit as far as a flash goes you might only feel it in your wallet being lighter and not in your motor.

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They "breathe" just fine. It is essentially a straight pipe from the cat in the header back. It is nothing like the metallic maze in a stock pipe.

It is true that at the very top end of the rev range, the stock configuration puts out a hair more power than the Stage 1 configuration, but everywhere throughout the rest of the rpm range, you will pick up power with the Stage 1. But that's with the whole Stage 1 enchilada. What it does without the air filter and FI map change is anyone's guess.

As for the sound, have a listen for yourself. First part of the vid is cruising sound, then I rev it up a little going through a couple corners, finally, I get off the bike and just rev it up a few times.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcoXPLRX9QM
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Kevinx had this to say about stock and S1
he said stock gives you torque at bottom end where as S1's will give you power on top end.
That makes more sense.

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Kevinx had this to say about stock and S1
he said stock gives you torque at bottom end where as S1's will give you power on top end.
Either way you get some benefit as far as a flash goes you might only feel it in your wallet being lighter and not in your motor.
If yer quoting him correctly, he's wrong:

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That looks like a very fun road to ride.
It's on my way to the dealer and the really good roads so I ride it regularly. That first bend can be a little tricky going the other way.

I went on a Harley demo ride last year and the guide had a hair up his butt and strayed away from their little straight road path and down that road, going the opposite direction.

The gal behind me ran straight into the guardrail seen in the first turn I make in the video and shattered her leg. The Sportster she demo'd bounced off the rail and continued to roll on by itself, crossing the road and doing a spectacular flip over a downed telephone pole in a field, before coming to a rest spilling its guts.

When the ambulance came, the husband of the downed rider (also along for a demo) told the ambulance driver that they didn't have insurance. Not sure if he was expecting the ambulance driver to dump her back onto the street or what, but it did make me wonder how Harley ever cut them loose on one of their bikes...




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