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I noticed on my last long ride that if I wind the bike out past 5000 rpm it wouldn't shift. The shifter moves up, but no pookie... still in the same gear. In normal riding you would never know, but it seems the shift ratchet just slips when you're honkin' on it.

I decided to replace the whole shifting system AND I picked up a 'shift kit' from Factory Pro that is supposed to improve shifting on these things.



The Victory parts, including a Cometic gasket for the primary cover cost $198.00
The Factory Pro parts were $119 + shipping, which seems like a lot for that little bit of sh!t... it better shift good!

All will get installed this weekend. The clutch has to come out to get to the little arm, spring and star. The ratchet can be done just by removing the primary cover. I could probably have just changed the ratchet and it would be fine again... but me being me... not gonna happen. I will post a report after it's done and I ride it some.

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I noticed on my last long ride that if I wind the bike out past 5000 rpm it wouldn't shift. The shifter moves up, but no pookie... still in the same gear. In normal riding you would never know, but it seems the shift ratchet just slips when you're honkin' on it.

I decided to replace the whole shifting system AND I picked up a 'shift kit' from Factory Pro that is supposed to improve shifting on these things.

The Victory parts, including a Cometic gasket for the primary cover cost $198.00
The Factory Pro parts were $119 + shipping, which seems like a lot for that little bit of sh!t... it better shift good!

All will get installed this weekend. The clutch has to come out to get to the little arm, spring and star. The ratchet can be done just by removing the primary cover. I could probably have just changed the ratchet and it would be fine again... but me being me... not gonna happen. I will post a report after it's done and I ride it some.
So this is something that has recently developed, or you would've noticed it before, right? Is the oil approaching its end life?

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So this is something that has recently developed, or you would've noticed it before, right? Is the oil approaching its end life?
Oh, I would have noticed it right off and the oil is fresh. I think it has something to do with the 80,000 miles on the odometer.

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Let us know how that works out HC. There is always room for us to learn.

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Pretty lucky if it was a h-d all the gears would have to come out. Its the first part in and the spring does break and its the last thing out.
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Im really interested to see how this works for you.

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Now that I think about it... there were a couple of races where I couldn't get the bike to shift from 3rd to 4th... I blamed it on my crippled up leg/foot, but now I'm not so sure it wasn't the bike.

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interesting HC let me know how it goes thanks.
mu 2010 Vegas has shifting issues occasionally going into second and third if its not put in solid...a lazy shift and it'll jump out sometimes.
Combine that with a heavier than normal clutch and it can be a chore to ride at times.
I plan on keeping this bike and am slowly bringing the Torque and Power up, and I'd like to get the clutch and gears working as well as the rest of the bike works.

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interesting HC let me know how it goes thanks.
mu 2010 Vegas has shifting issues occasionally going into second and third if its not put in solid...a lazy shift and it'll jump out sometimes.
Combine that with a heavier than normal clutch and it can be a chore to ride at times.
I plan on keeping this bike and am slowly bringing the Torque and Power up, and I'd like to get the clutch and gears working as well as the rest of the bike works.
My clutch was a bear... a new clutch cable did wonders. It's still a 'man's clutch' with the stiff spring in there, but it's a lot better than it was.

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Pardon the editorializing HC but you know how I get.

Anyway, this is a case of a motorcycle that, through many miles of use near, at or beyond the manufacturer limits appears to be revealing wear characteristics that otherwise would not be known. First I heard of it out of the little I know about Vic gearboxes so I'm thinking it's not a common issue or cause for concern. Maybe a fluke but it may be a harbinger of things to come for many Vics of a certain mileage or a certain number of shifts.

While some shake their righteous fingers when throttle jocks do what they do, it's the pushers that find out what happens to the machine at it's limits. That info helps everybody, even Ma Vic if she's willing to pay attention. If this is happening to HC at 80k maybe it's happening to Grandpa at 100 and Grandpa can use that info if he wants to.

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