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post #1 of 105 (permalink) Old 05-07-2014, 09:47 AM Thread Starter
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Paid a visit to The Pompano Indian / Victory dealer yesterday while out of town on business. I get asked a lot when there how my XC is running as they know it is Lloyds driven. yesterday they asked if I had the timing wheel and if I was sure that the adjusting bolts were tight. It seems that they have an XC in the shop now with a bent rod due to the Lloyds timing wheel (owner install error) bolts coming loose and advancing timing too much to the point of causing this damage to the motor. The owner was riding with his wife at a cruise speed of 50 mph and bam. When the tech opened up the timing cover he discovered the wheel loose as a goose and no LOC-TITE in site.

I got home last night and immediately removed my cover and re installed those little adjusting bolts with red loc-tite. I never did it at my installation and when my cams and dyno tune were done by Kyle he found them loose at that time about a month after I installed the wheel. Still he didn't feel the need for LOC-TITE and just tightened the bolts again. Last night my bolts were not loose but it took 0 effort to break them loose.

I think the Red LOC-TITE is the only insurance we have that this hopefully does not happen to us. The Customer that grenade his motor is looking at a $12,000 repair according to the dealer who states Victory does not have crated/built motors. It comes one expensive part at a time.

Moral to this story is get a bottle of red Loc tite and a WD re-usable gasket and include checking your timing wheel from time to time during your maintenance at least once a year. I'm certainly glad I did.

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post #2 of 105 (permalink) Old 05-07-2014, 10:05 AM
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Great information. Guess I'll be checking mine tonight.



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Rylan put mine in when the cams went in, never a bad thing to make double sure all is tight.

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I added this to my blog and I am spreading the word about this issue.
http://broggyrsblog.blogspot.com/



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While I'm no master mechanic, I am handy. Your warning is a good one, BUT, I can't count the threads on various sites about folks installing these and finding out after the fact they should have tightened the set bolts. Instructions in mine said to torque W/blue lock tight. Gave the value as well.
I know not all have or read instructions, but being surprised the things should be checked on install?
I guess the CDO (OCD with the letters in order as they should be) gets to me.
Check them bolts, use lock tight, and happy trails.

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Blue locktite should be fine...

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red Loctite will require heat to remove them if you ever had to. I would follow the instructions and use blue.

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not to hijack the thread but....

who in their right mind would even consider spending 12k on having a motor rebuilt??? ordering every part from victory would be the last thing I would do.

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I used blue on all three bolts .....

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I did mine with red loc tite.. I have removed them for adjusting the timing and they seem to break loose pretty well as long as the engine is still pretty warm.

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