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post #1 of 16 (permalink) Old 05-13-2014, 05:01 PM Thread Starter
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I have the PCV and Autotune installed on my bike since December 2013. I got the base map from a fellow forum member, Bthomas. The bike is running great and I have no complaints. I typically accept the trims once a month. When I bought the Autotune, I was going to install LLoydz drop in cams myself and let Autotune update my map. I have since changed my mind and decided to go with the touring cams. I will be riding up from Dallas to Rylan's shop next Monday for him to do the install.

So here's the question for the group, do I:

1. Let Rylan create a custom map for my bike and turn off Autotune? or
2. Don't do a dyno and let Autotune make the adjustments to my map? or
3. Let Rylan create the map and leave Autotune on to continue adjusting the new custom map?

The shortest distance between 2 points is a straight line, but how much fun can that be?!

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Do what ever Rylan says is best. What you should think about is what you want out of the bike. Do you want to pass trucks or do you want to race
Am thinking Rylan will do a dyno and get you a great base map and auto tune will keep it tuned

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Id use autotune to build the map. Just make a few short tuning runs and accept the trims and continue making runs till it levels out. If you want to see the power numbers stop in and do a quick dyno pull for 50 bucks and your done. Itll save ya a few hundred bucks and still will have a dyno sheet to show your buddies and us.

I plan to get a wideband commander and use it as an autotune and then make a quick dyno pull to get before and after numbers on a dyno after doing torque tubes and cams

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I'm curious to see the before and after cams numbers. I'm leaning towards option 3. Let Rylan tune the bike and keep the Autotune to fine tune over time.

The shortest distance between 2 points is a straight line, but how much fun can that be?!

2013 XCT Sunset Red
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I'd say set the A/F ratio and let the auto tune do it's job.

Some people act like hooking up the PC and module via USB is real challenge.

The only key question is getting the right values into the right for your driving style.

I'm constantly futzing trying to get an economy mix and performance mix.
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Why ask us when your going to the man that does this for a living and has done a good thousand bikes before you.
If you went to a doctor and he said you have cold take this. Wouldn't you take it.
Do what Rylan says. Tell him what you want and what you might do and you will not go wrong

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I'd say set the A/F ratio and let the auto tune do it's job.

Some people act like hooking up the PC and module via USB is real challenge.

The only key question is getting the right values into the right for your driving style.

I'm constantly futzing trying to get an economy mix and performance mix.
I like where my AFR is set currently. Getting around 40 MPG. Bike is running cooler than before PCV. By accepting the trims over the past 6 months, my current map is well suited to my riding style. Are you saying that peak power is not dependent on the dyno tune?

The shortest distance between 2 points is a straight line, but how much fun can that be?!

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Tri-oval exhaust
Lloydz' Air Filter
Lloydz' ATS
PCV with AT
Lloydz' Touring Cams (tuned by The Vic Shop)
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Why ask us when your going to the man that does this for a living and has done a good thousand bikes before you.
If you went to a doctor and he said you have cold take this. Wouldn't you take it.
Do what Rylan says. Tell him what you want and what you might do and you will not go wrong
I'm not doubting Rylan. Just what to do with the Autotune, mainly.

The shortest distance between 2 points is a straight line, but how much fun can that be?!

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Stage 1 Flash
CATS removed
Tri-oval exhaust
Lloydz' Air Filter
Lloydz' ATS
PCV with AT
Lloydz' Touring Cams (tuned by The Vic Shop)
Lloydz' 1/4 turn throttle ring
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if rylan is doing the cams have him dyno and ask him about the auto tune, he will know better then anyone else here.


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autotune should build a good map after accepting trims a couple times and it would take an hour to do then run it on a dyno and take a look at your a/f ratio and numbers and decide if you want to tweak it here or there. You can tune it yourself for free and be 95% there, its going to cost another couple hundred if you start from scratch paying the dyno guy.

Its like shooting at a target blindfolded, you have a much better chance at hitting it if someone points you in the right direction first!

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