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Unhappy New Member - PLEASE HELP! 2005 Hammer won't crank!

Need help with my 2005 Hammer. After not riding for about 6 months, put new battery in it, cranked and started but ran rough and hot. siphoned a lot of the gas out, and put about 2 new fresh gallons of 82 octane in it. Restarted and it ran better, but still rough. let it run for about 20-30 minutes, and it was getting hot. Turned it off. Let it sit for about 10 minutes, was going to take her for a ride, and burn off some of that old gas, and stuff. Bike turned over, but then would not start...or if it did, it would stall in about 5 to 10 seconds. Then, as I was pressing start button, smoke came from right side of the bike under gas tank...and then it stopped and would not even click or turn over? I must have fried something? Where to begin?
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Yesterday...After not riding for about 6 months, put new battery in it, cranked and started but ran rough and hot. siphoned a lot of the gas out, and put about 2 new fresh gallons of 82 octane in it. Restarted and it ran better, but still rough. let it run for about 20-30 minutes, and it was getting hot. Turned it off. Let it sit for about 10 minutes, was going to take her for a ride, and burn off some of that old gas, and stuff. Bike turned over, but then would not start...or if it did, it would stall in about 5 to 10 seconds. Then, as I was pressing start button to try to get it to run, smoke came from right side of the bike under gas tank...and then it stopped and would not even click or turn over? I must have fried something? Where to begin? Lights come on and fuel pump seems to be priming. Fuses look fine. Can't find anything burnt looking or melted. Still won't turn over or even click like it does with dead battery. Pressing start doesn't do a thing. No noise... nothing.
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Yesterday...After not riding for about 6 months, put new battery in it, cranked and started but ran rough and hot. siphoned a lot of the gas out, and put about 2 new fresh gallons of 82 octane in it. Restarted and it ran better, but still rough. let it run for about 20-30 minutes, and it was getting hot. Turned it off. Let it sit for about 10 minutes, was going to take her for a ride, and burn off some of that old gas, and stuff. Bike turned over, but then would not start...or if it did, it would stall in about 5 to 10 seconds. Then, as I was pressing start button to try to get it to run, smoke came from right side of the bike under gas tank...and then it stopped and would not even click or turn over? I must have fried something? Where to begin? Lights come on and fuel pump seems to be priming. Fuses look fine. Can't find anything burnt looking or melted. Still won't turn over or even click like it does with dead battery. Pressing start doesn't do a thing. No noise... nothing.
Start with the basics. Drain the tank, iirc victory specs 91/93 octane for all models though I could be wrong. Either way make sure all the old gas is out and fresh gas is in.

If you repeatedly started the motor without going on a real ride the battery is probably low, put it on a charger and top it off.

I would hazard a guess that nothing is turning over because you popped one of the primary fuses. The other one is sending power to lights and fuel pump but the main fuse for the starter may have popped. Check all your fuses and make sure. Once thats done you have to find the reason for the popped fuse. It could be a fluke or it could be a short somewhere.

I would further guess that the repeated cranking with a presumably low battery caused the motor to compress and ignite (barely) a charge in one cylinder but it was not enough to spin it over completely. The smoke is that burnt charge coming back out through the throttle bodies. I had this happen once on my Aprilia when my injectors were clogged and I couldn't get it to start. Inspect thoroughly to make sure nothing is burnt or melted and if everything looks fine, blame it on that and move on.

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Start with the basics. Drain the tank, iirc victory specs 91/93 octane for all models though I could be wrong. Either way make sure all the old gas is out and fresh gas is in.

If you repeatedly started the motor without going on a real ride the battery is probably low, put it on a charger and top it off.

I would hazard a guess that nothing is turning over because you popped one of the primary fuses. The other one is sending power to lights and fuel pump but the main fuse for the starter may have popped. Check all your fuses and make sure. Once thats done you have to find the reason for the popped fuse. It could be a fluke or it could be a short somewhere.

I would further guess that the repeated cranking with a presumably low battery caused the motor to compress and ignite (barely) a charge in one cylinder but it was not enough to spin it over completely. The smoke is that burnt charge coming back out through the throttle bodies. I had this happen once on my Aprilia when my injectors were clogged and I couldn't get it to start. Inspect thoroughly to make sure nothing is burnt or melted and if everything looks fine, blame it on that and move on.
Thanks for the great reply. I had somebody locally tell me that it is probably the starter solenoid? Not likely? I did inspect the fuses and they look fine? Not sure about the relays? Could the battery be that dead that it doesn't even click or anything when attempting to start...? The lights all come on bright. Thanks again.

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Yes your battery could be extremely low from the constant starting. I understand you let it run, but most motorcycles don't charge the battery until the motor is run at a constant RPM, normally above idle. Now if you had run the bike around in between starts, then it would allow the battery to charge. If you have a voltage meter, check the battery voltage, but it surely wouldn't hurt to put it on the charger.

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Yes your battery could be extremely low from the constant starting. I understand you let it run, but most motorcycles don't charge the battery until the motor is run at a constant RPM, normally above idle. Now if you had run the bike around in between starts, then it would allow the battery to charge. If you have a voltage meter, check the battery voltage, but it surely wouldn't hurt to put it on the charger.
Thanks, I will give that a shot. The battery is brand new yesterday though...and even with my old battery, it would click or wind and attempt to turn over even slightly. Is it not possible that I burned up the solenoid by attempting to start it consecutively multiple times? Just trying to cover all my bases.
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before you put the battery on charger check to see if bolts are tight.
Do Not use a charger over 2 amps give it over night to charge up.
Turn key on make sure you can hear fuel pump prim. If you do not here it prim stop start looking for electrical problem. Don't even push button

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Welcome to the forum Frank. I sure hope that octane rating is a typo. The engines like an octane of at least 91. I see you have a thread in the Tech area so I will let that be the one for all the hints for you.

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Hope you find your problem and are riding again soon.
I'm amazed you'd leave an aircooled motor running stationary for 20-30 minutes .
5 minutes at the most and my engine is hot to touch on the l/h side and I'm riding, getting some airflow.
No way would I leave it running anywhere near that long.

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