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I apologize if this has already been asked but I can't search on the forums very well from my phone.

Im in the midst of a turbo build, trying to decide on an EMS. I was almost dead set on going with microsquirt, which is basically a mini megasquirt. I like the idea because i will have full fuel and ignition control. i just realized tonight though that the PCV can control (modify) ignition timing +\- 20 DEG after 2500 rpm. Anyway, why doesnt this work on an open loop bike like my 06? all it does is intercept coil firing and injector firing signals and make them longer or at a higher frequency in the case of the ignition (I think).

Why then could i not make it work on my bike? Is it connectors or is there some other prohibitive thing about the older bikes that keeps us from using the pcv? Is the pcv just smarter than i think? Maybe it looks at the crank sensor, tps, map, etc and does not just act as a "dumb" device?
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Pcv does not work on earlier model bikes I have the same problem I have a kit all faced up and can't use it because I could get a computer. I tried to get one from pmrt but after a year of waiting I gave up on it and bought cams. I don't know if the mini squirting will work because of the engine being 50 degree.

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Pcv does not work on earlier model bikes I have the shappen roblem I have a kit all faced up and can't use it because I could get a computer. I tried to get one from pmrt but after a year of waiting I gave up on it and bought cams. I don't know if the mini squirting will work because of the engine being 50 degree.

What does 50 degree have to do with anything? The ignition and fuel pulses still happen at equal intervals of crank rotation.. ie when piston 1 is at tdc piston 2 is at bdc... I thought!

So you have the pcv but cant use it? Would you be interested in a microsquirt setup? Rylan also told me to contact Dave at PMRT but i havent yet. I heard it was very expensive.
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What does 50 degree have to do with anything? The ignition and fuel pulses still happen at equal intervals of crank rotation.. ie when piston 1 is at tdc piston 2 is at bdc... I thought!
Both pistons are connected to the same crank pin. So both pistons go up and down at slightly different times, not 180 apart. Yes, it's a Harley engine, but the principle is the same.




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Both pistons are connected to the same crank pin. So both pistons go up and down at slightly different times, not 180 apart. Yes, it's a Harley engine, but the principle is the same.

Wow, i never even thought of that! i do remember seeing that both rods are on the same journal... just didn't put 2&2 together!

That is a good point then, i will need to figure out if MS can handle that kind of thing or if i will need to go another route.
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As far as i know they don't make a power commander 5 for ur bike. They make usb3 which is what i have. I didn't put the turbo kit on the bike because i couldn't get the computer from pmrt and i got tired of waiting and wanted to ride it so i spent the money on cams and torque rubes. I also work at a machine shop so i done all the work my self from porting heads to raising compression by milling heads

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Do u have a power goal because u may be able to reach it without doing a turbo. Mine makes around 122 and runs 11.50s at the track.

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Do u have a power goal because u may be able to reach it without doing a turbo. Mine makes around 122 and runs 11.50s at the track.
those aren't numbers to scoff at for sure, must be a blast to ride and more than enough power! However, i'm shooting for quite a bit more than that with the turbo system - i want to hit 200hp with a stock bottom end ... i know its been done and even more than that although i think one guy that did it had to upgrade (or decided to upgrade) the rods. valve springs are another weak point i think when you start revving around 6500 which is what i plan to do.
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So why don't you talk to Rylan at the Vic shop they have a Vic there now with a turbo on it

http://victoryturbosystems.com/


http://www.turbokits.com/Victory/Vegas/Turbo_Kits/

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