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I am trying to trade my 2012 cct for an Indian Vintage. The dealer is telling me that due to the fact that a power commander was installed, the bike has been stressed and he won't take it in trade. Any truth to this crap???? comments please guys
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Sounds like shady dealer shenanigans to me


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No truth to it. The PCV changes the fuel mapping. It does not add any stress to anything. On the contrary, the motor runs cooler when taken off the suicidal stock map, and cooler running motor wears less. Who knows, maybe they have too many used bikes in stock and don't want another, and gave you a typical dealer excuse.

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Interesting comment. Ask him what the hell he is talking about?

Equipment doesn't stress the engine the operator does.

I can venture a guess that he has seen some poor tuning that has caused some problems either too lean or rich.

Dealer might be skiddish about the emission modification as well.

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Is that dealer also a politician?

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Does power commander stress the engine???

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It depends on how the dealer is looking at this. Normally when someone adds a programmer they are running the you know what out of the bike and I would bet you that is why they don't want to touch your bike knowing you have put a PCV on it.

As far as the PCV hurting the engine, only if it is set up improperly i.e. the air/fuel ratios are way off and it has been driven that way for a long time then sure any programmer could end up hurting an engine. Run it to lean for to long and damage can occur and even running it to rich can cause problems.

Most dealers don't want anything to do with a bike that they think has been driven hard.

I know auto dealers who would not give much in trade for a car that had a trailer hitch installed on it.
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These dealers are ridiculous. I would find a different India dealer.


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I am trying to trade my 2012 cct for an Indian Vintage. The dealer is telling me that due to the fact that a power commander was installed, the bike has been stressed and he won't take it in trade. Any truth to this crap???? comments please guys
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Not if it was tuned right but anybody can screw something up and since a PCV allows the owner to do essentially "Whatever the hell they want to it..." I guess I could see this guys point. If you had it tuned by a professional you could always simply show him the dyno sheet showing that the PCV when properly installed by a skilled tuner ENSURES that the bike has not be "abused" in ANY way. Either than or find a dealer that understands that MANY bikes have power commanders added to them as a normal process.

In fact you MUST use a Power Commander (or other similar controller) should you add CAMs to the bike to ENSURE that it is properly tuned.




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Total b.s., the PCV mapped correctly will actually fix the lean mapping installed by Victory to comply with federal emissions. Lean is heat and an engine that's running warmer than usual isn't conducive to engine longevity. However, a warmer engine does burn up emissions more completely, also part of the reason why they are set up lean. It's not about you or your bike, it's about gov't.
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