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Quarter Throttle Install Issues

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#1 ·
I have a 2007 Vegas Premium. I installed the S&S airbox and VCF-III yesterday with no issues.

Today my Lloyd's Quarter turn came in. I took off the tank and installed the quarter turn with no issues at first. Then I tried to close the housing, but I can't since there is a .5 inch gap at the bottom.

I have tried everything and I can't get the housing closed. I have the HR2 throttle ring. Can someone help?

Attached is the pic of my problem as well as the grips. What kind of grips are these (I just bought the bike)?

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#2 ·
If you pull every thing off the bars can you get the housing closed.
Try it off bar with grip in place and see.

On the vision models housing has to be in a certain spot or it will not close
 
#4 ·
I went out and tried it all again...this time just off the bars. I still couldn't get the housing closed. I could get it within 1/4 inch of being closed and then found that the handle wouldn't turn at all.

I have no idea what the issue is. I tried it many ways but still no success. Crazy that installing the VCF-III and S&S was "easier" than installing this quarter-turn.
 
#6 ·
I think I'd have called WD (or who ever you ordered from) for a fitment check before I did all that. There are 2 sizes and they don't claim to work with every grip. They say you may need to do some shaving, but not major reconstruction.

Looks and sounds like you got the wrong ring. If you already contacted them, my apology.
 
#7 ·
I called them and they said I have the correct piece for having stock grips. I just bought the bike and I don't know the exact grips I have. I attached a pic above with the grips.

I got on another forum and another guy with an 07' Vegas Premium had the same issue. The chrome housing is very tight.

I spent an hour today cutting a PVC pipe the same size of the 1/4 turn piece...but having half the thickness. I finally got the housing closed but was so cramp that the handle won't turn. I give up.

I have a 1/4 turn HR2 for sale if anyone wants one.
 
#11 ·
I am looking at your grips and they look exactly like the ones on my Hammer and they ARE stock at least for my Hammer. I have a quarter turn sitting in my garage for installation but your story makes me want to re consider...
 
#10 ·
HR1 is for stock and HR2 is for aftermarket grips

What grips do you have,

the 1/4 ring should fit tight on your grip and

I miked the OD of the HR1 and it was 1.73 so that like 13/4"
 
#12 ·
I had the same problem.

Have Avon grips and Ness RAD III controls.

Had to grind and grind and grind the heck out of the inside of both halves of that switch housing for it to finally close. Still not silky smooth, but it's not catching.
 
#13 ·
I got the HR2 for my Ness grips ... It went right on no problems , I would say if it doesn't go on and fit and function perfectly , you have the wrong one .....
 
#14 ·
I grinded a ton out of the housing and I still couldn't get the throttle ring to fit. I have the HR2 ring and there was at least .5 inch gap in the housing bottom and wouldn't close. The diameter of the HR1 is not much different than the HR2...so I am just dropping the idea of the quarter turn.

Seems like everyone with 08+ bikes have no issue installs...but the 07- (especially the premium with the chrome housings) bikes have some issues with the rings.

I even fabricated a PCV pipe identical as the HR2 ring...except for half the width....this still wouldn't work. I even messed around with some putty on the handle and found that I have maybe 2mm clearance in the housing for any type of ring.

Because of me grinding the housing so much..the handle would move to the left and right a few mm and then there is 1/4 inch play as well. This drove me insane last night. So I took off the housing and found some marine hardening putty..and used this to create the housing area that I grinded out. You kneed the putty and then it hardens into the strength of metal (feels like it anyway). The putty worked great and now I have no play at all in my handle. I want nothing to do with the quarter-ring at the moment. But I am sure I will jack with a little more down the road.
 
#17 ·
I put on the HR1 and the throttle housing has at least 1/2 inch gap (just like in the HR2). I put everything together while not on the bar...so there is no way it will fit.

The chrome housing on the Premiums have install issues...have to do some dremel work later. Seems like a common theme with these type of housings.
 
#18 ·
jutsinger
I looked and in 09 they changed your switch housing.
on my 08 vision I could not get it to work and I have ground the hell out of the housing. Its in the tool box and I'm never going to try to make it fit again. For me I see they switch the housing in 2010
So screw it I spent $20 bucks for nothing.
 
#19 ·
I decided to not jack with it anymore and will just throw the HR1 in my junk drawer. A few weeks ago I ground the heck out of the housing to try and get the HR2 to fit. I made things so much worse. I almost had to buy a new $220 chrome housing. I ended up using some plastic weld to get things kind of back to normal.

I am now scared to death to grind out the housing again to get the HR1 to work. I don't mind the throttle at all being stock. I think I might play around with different thicknesses of PVC pipe that others are using to make their own "thin" throttle ring.
 
#20 ·
I went to several hardware stores and purchased several 1" PVC pipes with different thicknesses. I used a handsaw and cut them to fit on my throttle grip. I tried several and finally found one that fit.

I cut the piece, sanded it, and used a razor blade to groove out a cable spot. I gorilla glued it to the throttle handle. It works great. It is about 1/2 thickness of the quarter ring. So I guess I have a 1/8 ring now. Glad I finally found something that works. Surprisingly how much better the throttle response it has now.
 
#21 ·
So frustrated I have a 2006 Vegas with the same stock grips and an HR2 and have the exact same problem. I am changing the grips to
Transformer grips and yes the housings wont go together. I also cannot believe that grinding the hell out of the housing is a solution to something that says it's designed for your bike. Something is really amiss here.
 
#22 ·
Just an idea... Would it help to put a sheet of grinding paper on a flat surface and grind the throttle ring itself ?
 
#23 ·
By the amount the housing is pushed open I would say no. You would have to nearly remove the raised area in the housing. To me the raised areas look like they are meant to stop the throttle from just free spinning. Like a stop. I understand this is an after market part but it is no where in the realm of close. Going to contact Witchdoctors as I am sure there have to be many with this problem. Perhaps they know what to do. Or maybe call Lloydz.
 
#24 ·
Its stamp on the ring.
HR 1 fits 08 and up factory grips
HR 2 fits 99 to 07 factory grips and 08 and up custom grips or H-D grips
 
#25 ·
I purchased HR2. It fits my grips perfect just not into the housing. I will be contacting LLoydz or Witchdoctors and will posts what I am told.
 
#26 ·
Contacted LLoydz and sent them some pics. They are going to look at them and get back to me. What a great company.
 
#27 ·
Talked to Danny at LLoydz and looks like I will be returning the part. He asked if I watched Witchdoctors video about how he said you may need to grind the area out in some instances. I told him I would hate to ruin a 200 dollar part for a 20 dollar part to work. sounds like no quarter turn throttle for me.
 
#30 · (Edited)
Any of my future posts regarding my issue will be posted in this thread instead of my other to help consolidate information.

I talked to Danny at LLoydz and he said I should return the part. He asked if I watched the Witchdoctors video and referred me to the section which talks about grinding out the inside of the housing. I told them I wasn't comfortable modifying a 200 dollar part for a 20 dollar part to work.

I called Witchdoctors and talked to Robyn and sent her the pictures. She is going to show them to the crew and see what they can come up with.

Hopefully any information I gain will help others in the future.
 
#31 ·
I'm blown away. Victory back then use the same throttle cable style that Harley uses to this day and the same switch button that Harley used for years. The throttle and idle cable push into housing and that little switch Harley used for their radio control.
WOW some Victory guys are going to be shocked
 
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