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post #1 of 41 (permalink) Old 12-16-2011, 06:33 PM Thread Starter
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Default Dyno time for my Hammer.

I wanted a before and after comparison for the upgrades so we dyno'd my bike yesterday to get a baseline. The bike put down 92hp/110tq with the air/fuel ratio staying between 11.7-12.0. Needless to say its way too rich and it figures since it spewed black smoke. I think the Hammer drag map sucks. There is no way any tune should be that rich. Without baffles, it was loud enough to make ears bleed inside the shop.

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Dyno runs remind me of a bomb ready to explode. If I ever had mine dyno'd I couldn't stand to be there.
How does the 92/110 compare to an out of the box Hammer? Do you have a bone stock dyno run on your bike?

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Are those SAE numbers? Is there a way you could post the graph? I assume the you have the complete Victory stage 3 package w/Ness airbox?

Stock 2007 KP w/Shotgun pipes, S&S airbox, and VFC-2 (Uncorrected & different dyno, so not a valid comparison).




You can see that after 4600 RPM it really it levels out and stays there. In my opinion that's the combination of the stock cams and the Shotgun pipes holding it back.

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Dyno runs remind me of a bomb ready to explode. If I ever had mine dyno'd I couldn't stand to be there.
How does the 92/110 compare to an out of the box Hammer? Do you have a bone stock dyno run on your bike?
I bought my bike with the stage 3 already done so I don't have a dyno run of it stock.

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Are those SAE numbers? Is there a way you could post the graph? I assume the you have the complete Victory stage 3 package w/Ness airbox?

Stock 2007 KP w/Shotgun pipes, S&S airbox, and VFC-2 (Uncorrected & different dyno, so not a valid comparison).




You can see that after 4600 RPM it really it levels out and stays there. In my opinion that's the combination of the stock cams and the Shotgun pipes holding it back.
HC, I just stopped by long enough to watch the dyno pulls and left. The numbers aren't corrected I don't believe but I'll double check with him. Yes, its a full stage 3 with the Ness intake/cams. Unfortunately, I didn't take a picture of the graph but my graph also peaked and stayed flat all the way to the limiter at 6,500rpm. I don't have a Lloyd's ECU so I was a bit amazed it rev'd that high but I do know it had been tweaked by a Victory tech like KevinX.

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Also, at one point during the pull the AFR went so rich it practically went off the scale.

A couple things... I was told/shown the bike did a little more on another dyno right after the stage 3 kit which I could see if the tune was better on it. Since then, the bike sat a lot for years before I bought it.

I agree with everyone that Victory "shotgun" pipes are restrictive. At idle, I can feel my exhaust strongly on my legs from 6 feet back and during the first dyno pull the exhaust blew open the doors to the dyno room that were unlatched. They have way too much velocity coming out to be free breathing.

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Also, at one point during the pull the AFR went so rich it practically went off the scale.

A couple things... I was told/shown the bike did a little more on another dyno right after the stage 3 kit which I could see if the tune was better on it. I agree with everyone that v
I just had my 07' Kingpin Tour run on the dyno yesterday, it pulled 92.8 max power, and 99.45 torque with S&S box, and 05' stage 1 slip-ons.
I have 8204 mi. on the bike. I put the air box and slip-ons on 2 years ago. It sounds similar to what you got. You got more torque.

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I just had my 07' Kingpin Tour run on the dyno yesterday, it pulled 92.8 max power, and 99.45 torque with S&S box, and 05' stage 1 slip-ons.
I have 8204 mi. on the bike. I put the air box and slip-ons on 2 years ago. It sounds similar to what you got. You got more torque.
Those are good numbers.

Mine are low unfortunately since I have stage 3 cams

The sheet I was shown/numbers I was told it had put down were 102hp/113tq when I bought it. That was on a different dyno though and years ago right after the Stage 3 kit was done. I'll try to upload the dyno video for you guys to see. The bike blew out black smoke the entire run and the whole shop reeked of fuel afterwards (bad enough that I had to run home to shower and change clothes). The plugs have been fouled quite a few times and is why its getting new ones. If you shut the motor off before it was fully warmed up, it fouled the plugs immediately and you had to rev it to clear them out.

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Ok here's the video guys...

First dyno pull


Third dyno pull

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You do still clean your throttle bodies don't you? Our dealership has been told to tell evryone to let your throttle bodies get dirty, then set the TPS to the dirty TBs. To me that's crazy. I clean mine at every 2500 mi oil change. .(I use Vic oil)
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You do still clean your throttle bodies don't you? Our dealership has been told to tell evryone to let your throttle bodies get dirty, then set the TPS to the dirty TBs. To me that's crazy. I clean mine at every 2500 mi oil change. .(I use Vic oil)
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I haven't but I've only put about 1,500miles on it since I've gotten it. It just had its 5,000 mile service but I asked him to check the throttle bodies when he puts the new intake on.

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