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post #1 of 13 (permalink) Old 07-11-2014, 11:46 AM Thread Starter
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Looking for a PCV map for an XC with stock cams; the Lloyds high flow air filter; and victory 210 performance slip ons. Would be extremely grateful to anyone that might have this map built on a dyno.

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i have a couple maps that should work, not dyno maps though, doubt you will get one of them, mine have been tweaked with my auto tune i have a12 xc, thrush packs, no cats , lloydz filter, timing wheel at 8 degrees, pcv w/at.


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Dyno maps are pricy!



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i have a couple maps that should work, not dyno maps though, doubt you will get one of them, mine have been tweaked with my auto tune i have a12 xc, thrush packs, no cats , lloydz filter, timing wheel at 8 degrees, pcv w/at.


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Just curious, did I see you mention getting your bike dyno tuned? You have the AT so did the AT come before dyno or after? Just wondering why one would do both. I know the AT is not as good as a good dyno operator but from what I gather the AT is good enough.

I could be thinking of somebody else...

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If you buy your PCV from Lloydz, he'll include a map at no charge. I emailed and asked, that's the route I'm going which should get me real close then I'll go with the AT from there.

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i put mine on a dyno once last summer just to see what it had, thats why i got rid of the vfc and went to pcv. i do have auto tune, but what most dont understand is you still need either a good map or good af numbers to set. it doesnt just set itself.


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My XC has the Lloyds AF, Lloyds IAC valve, PCV w/autotune. Dealer I bought it from told me it was Stage 1, and it has the Vic 210 slip-ons. I downloaded the closest config map from the Powercommander website.

Not sure which ECU flash it has? Local dealer has suggested I flash the ECM, for $200.

email reply from Dynojet tech assistance:

"Popping on decel is very common on Vtwin applications with open exhaust. Sometimes you can tune it out and others not so much. On this bike the ECU shuts the injectors completely off on decel so no matter what you do with the PCV it will not effect it. "

I have read that the autotune only works above 2500rpm (which may explain why I still get popping & the odd backfire on decel (usually at 3000 and below).

I am soon going to installing the Lloyds timing wheel & 1/4 throttle ring.

I hope to try and reduce or remove the popping & backfiring on decel.

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My XC has the Lloyds AF, Lloyds IAC valve, PCV w/autotune. Dealer I bought it from told me it was Stage 1, and it has the Vic 210 slip-ons. I downloaded the closest config map from the Powercommander website.

Not sure which ECU flash it has? Local dealer has suggested I flash the ECM, for $200.

email reply from Dynojet tech assistance:

"Popping on decel is very common on Vtwin applications with open exhaust. Sometimes you can tune it out and others not so much. On this bike the ECU shuts the injectors completely off on decel so no matter what you do with the PCV it will not effect it. "

I have read that the autotune only works above 2500rpm (which may explain why I still get popping & the odd backfire on decel (usually at 3000 and below).

I am soon going to installing the Lloyds timing wheel & 1/4 throttle ring.

I hope to try and reduce or remove the popping & backfiring on decel.
Very likely you have an exhaust leak. Click the first link...if you haven't read it already.
http://lloydz.com/techtips.asp

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOZw...ature=youtu.be

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if you want i can send you my map, i get very little popping.


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Very soon, Dynojet should have a map on their website that will make you very happy.
It is for a XC with LLoydz air filter and Bassani slip ons (guessing they flow close to yours).
The map is quit different than the one on their website with the high flow air filter.
Bonus: No decel pop!


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