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post #1 of 22 (permalink) Old 07-12-2014, 03:13 PM Thread Starter
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I have a 2011 cross roads with only 3500 miles. I always keep the trickle charger on it because I haven't ridden much lately. it always started fine. About a month ago I went for a 30 mile ride and turned bike off to eat lunch. I then went to start bike and Click noise was apparent from celanoid area. I pushed starter button a few more times and it turned over and started.

So, Yesterday I started bike and rode to store. I turned it off to go in store. Came out and CLICK, CLick. Would only make click noise from celanoid area. would not start. got tow back to house.

So I assumed the battery was shot; bad assumption. Today I got new battery ($140) and put trickle charger on it until green charger light shined. Everything looked good.

The bike started fine. rode a few miles and turned off to go in store. Tried to start bike and CLICK Click from celanoid; no startie. PISSED.

In the past I have taken the bike to a car wash and used the pressure nosle for washing. did I screw something up during washing process from the past?

could the celanoid be the problem? I'm clueless????
should I check the connections on the celanoid to make sure they are clean?

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post #2 of 22 (permalink) Old 07-12-2014, 03:29 PM
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frequently the battery terminals don't stay tight on the Cross bikes. make sure they're good and tight and clean and put some star washers on 'em.

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My money is on a loose connection somewhere. Don't think I have ever heard of a starter going out that early.

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Originally Posted by 4 inch pistons View Post
My money is on a loose connection somewhere. Don't think I have ever heard of a starter going out that early.
Yup. Sound advice. I would be looking for loose or disturbed connections at the starter, the starter relay as well as at the battery. Sounds like a classic case of current plenty, current delivery system not so much.

Regardless of what damage a car wash hose may do to finishes it shouldn't be able to dislodge primary wiring. Since you asked Pop would prefer that you not wash your bike with a car wash pressure hose but it's not my bike and for sure you are not alone putting the pressure wand to a motorcycle. If the water stream loosened up something that prevents your bike from starting, that event was going to happen anyway, just probably a little further on down the road.

Starter problems are rare as houndsteeth around here. Loose terminal connections though... there ought to be a forum of its own just dedicated to peeps having that issue and the peeps who preach evangelical about the misery that would have been prevented but for the use of star washers. I bet your problem will be better resolved by the appropriate investment of time and muscle instead of money.

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Repeat after me ten times....I will never ever pressure wash a motorcycle again. It drives crap into places that it won't come out of, drown electricals and other bad things happen too.

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Repeat after me ten times....I will never ever pressure wash a motorcycle again. It drives crap into places that it won't come out of, drown electricals and other bad things happen too.
I will never ever pressure wash a motorcycle again.

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dont even use a garden hose on mine...
waterless detail spray is the go.
I dont mind riding in the rain but draw the line at putting the hose on it.
and pressure washers...well it's all been said

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If your battery terminal screws are tight (and the shop manual's torque spec is way too low, IMHO) and you've added star washers (and I also put blue thread-locker on the bottom of those bolts, and di-electric grease on the top), it might also be a problem with the (hard to get at) main breaker bus.

There are several threads on this, and I carry a NAPA replacement in a saddlebag (along with a Sav-Ur-Ride clutch cable). Take a look at this thread page, for instance:

I second or third or fourth the notion of never using a pressure washer. I mean, you can get water in electrical parts, such as that fuse. And people have problems with the factory cruise just from riding in the rain, never mind pressure. And besides electrical stuff, a minor aiming mistake can possibly get by a wheel-bearing seal, and lead to bearing failure. And on and on.

I ride in the rain on multi-day trips, of course, but other than that I never even use a hose -- nozzle or no nozzle -- on the bike. I keep it very clean -- it's a good way to bond with the bike, and you're more likely to notice loose fasteners, damaged parts, etc. -- but I do it all with waterless spray-and-clean products and lots of micro-fiber towels (which I buy in bulk from Sam's Club every few months).


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I have heard of people replacing the breaker/fuse on cross bikes and steel frames. Where is it located on a Vision?

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