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post #1 of 12 (permalink) Old 07-31-2014, 10:48 AM Thread Starter
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Default My visit to the Vicshop - 07 Hammer w/Lloydz timing wheel & Lloydz ECU

Long story short--I'm getting ready to move to Germany...had a 3 day window to do whatever I wanted with my Hammer before it goes into storage for 3 years. I had already installed a Vic Performance 2-into-1 and plugged up the O2 sensors...but I knew there was more I could do than just the OEM Stage 1 flash. I had a Power Commander and a pair of VM1s on hand and Rylan was one of the few shops even remotely near me who had his hands on one of Lloydz new adjustable timing wheels for the pre-08 bikes. So I bolted on my tour pack, broke out my new drivers backrest from Drag Specialties (excellent!) and drove my bike 670 miles up to Rylan and had him work his magic.



Originally, I was going to have him install the VM1s and an SS airbox along with the timing wheel, but thankfully, Rylan and I had a nice long talk about my riding sytle and preferences (I should say, we had a nice long talk AGAIN--that doesn't even count the 3 dozen or so e-mails we traded up to that point). While I know I can get more power out of this bike, Rylan insisted that the performance gains with the new airbox and the VM1s in particular wouldn't be where I would likely use them (and therefore might not get my money's worth out of the mods). You gotta really respect a business man who goes out of his way to make sure the customer gets what he NEEDS, and not just what he can pay for, even if it means costing a little business.

In the end, we agreed that the best combination of mods FOR ME was to go with the adjustable timing wheel and a Lloydz ECU swap to give me an overall performance increase across the power band without sacrificing any low end grunt. So Rylan and Gabe got to work, all the while answering my questions, letting me watch, and generally being wonderful and generous hosts. While they were at it, Rylan noted that my throttle body boot had almost completely disintegrated (good thing they thought to check it!) so they took care of that along with installing a Progressive Shock and replacing my severely worn rear brake pads. Rylan then spent nearly a full hour dyno'ing the bike to within an inch of its life.

In the end, I was more than immensely pleased with the results. Yes, I will still be left in the dust by someone who rides at 3500-6000 rpms, but that's not my style. I was personally very impressed with the smoothness of the bike, especially where I ride it (cruising long and slow between 2200-3000 rpms), but it had gobs of power to spare any time I needed to crack throttle for passing...and getting up to 50 in 3rd gear without the engine breaking a sweat was something I just wasn't prepared for.

So for anyone interested in what sort of performance gains you can get without major surgery involving engine removal to drop in some cams or cutting away the stock airbox (I just have the Stage 1 vented airbox cover and K&N filter), here's what a 100 inch Hammer, Vic 2-into-1 exhaust, Lloydz timing wheel and Lloydz ECU looks like before and after.



And to Rylan and Gabe...thanks again for such an enjoyable afternoon--you guys were awesome and I deeply appreciate the work you've done!

Retired: 2007 Victory Hammer S
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- Victory OEM Quick-Disconnect Saddlebags
- KewlMetal Luggage Rack w/OEM Tourpack

Retired: 2010 Victory Vegas Low
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- Victory Dual Tour Saddle
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- KewlMetal Luggage Rack w/OEM Tourpack

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I really like the way u setup your Hammer. Nothing looks out of place. It actually looks right with all that touring gear, which is not easy to do on a hammer. The power gains are also impressive. Sounds like those guys did u right. Would love to have a decent Vic shop around here, but its not a popular enough brand where I am.

Post more pics of the bike from different angles.

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Bike looks great , decent #'s too ! Good luck in Germany .

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Thanks for the kind words--I had several people stop me on the road to ask what kind of bike it was...and it was a pleasure to run into not one but six other Vic riders in my travels (2 visions, 3 XCs, 1 Vegas).

I wasn't sure I was gonna like the touring gear on the Hammer, and the quick release trunk and ghost bags are already off now that I'm back; but for the trip to Iowa and back, it turned out pretty well I thought. In fact, I have two saddle bag liners in those Hammer/Jackpot leather bags that are actually sold for the Kingpin/Vegas hard-sided bags...but they fit internal form of the bags perfectly without bunching up which tells me that this "Touring Edition" Hammer has just about as much storage as a Kingpin or Vegas with all the hard-sided touring bags bolted on!

Here are a few other views as requested...




Retired: 2007 Victory Hammer S
- Victory Performance 2-into-1 Exhaust
- Power Commander III USB
- Lloydz Reprogrammed ECU
- Llodyz Adjustable Timing Wheel
- Progressive Suspension 465 Shock
- Drag Specialties Predator Seat w/ Driver Backrest
- Victory OEM Quick-Disconnect Saddlebags
- KewlMetal Luggage Rack w/OEM Tourpack

Retired: 2010 Victory Vegas Low
- Victory Stage 1 Slip Ons
- Victory Dual Tour Saddle
- Victory OEM saddle-bags
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Thanks for the post - we're glad you're loving it so much! Enjoy your extended stay in Germany!

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Ditto!

Thanks for the additional pics. This is the cleanest best looking touring hammer setup I've seen. Well done man!

Enjoy Germany

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If you're going to be overseas for that long, why not take the bike with you?

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Again, thanks for the kind words! As for why we're not bringing it, we've got two Vics at home, my Hammer and the wife's Vegas. But Germany is a scooter-friendly country and we have a pair of MP3 500s as well...with a weight limit on how many toys we could bring, it seemed smarter to go with the smaller scoots; believe me, I would have LOVED to bring all four toys, but living in the Alps with no covered garage on a tiny garrison just didn't seem like the right kind of environment for the bigger bikes.

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- Victory Performance 2-into-1 Exhaust
- Power Commander III USB
- Lloydz Reprogrammed ECU
- Llodyz Adjustable Timing Wheel
- Progressive Suspension 465 Shock
- Drag Specialties Predator Seat w/ Driver Backrest
- Victory OEM Quick-Disconnect Saddlebags
- KewlMetal Luggage Rack w/OEM Tourpack

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- Victory Stage 1 Slip Ons
- Victory Dual Tour Saddle
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Again, thanks for the kind words! As for why we're not bringing it, we've got two Vics at home, my Hammer and the wife's Vegas. But Germany is a scooter-friendly country and we have a pair of MP3 500s as well...with a weight limit on how many toys we could bring, it seemed smarter to go with the smaller scoots; believe me, I would have LOVED to bring all four toys, but living in the Alps with no covered garage on a tiny garrison just didn't seem like the right kind of environment for the bigger bikes.
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Again, thanks for the kind words! As for why we're not bringing it, we've got two Vics at home, my Hammer and the wife's Vegas. But Germany is a scooter-friendly country and we have a pair of MP3 500s as well...with a weight limit on how many toys we could bring, it seemed smarter to go with the smaller scoots; believe me, I would have LOVED to bring all four toys, but living in the Alps with no covered garage on a tiny garrison just didn't seem like the right kind of environment for the bigger bikes.
Understand but your going to miss those Vics! Scooters can be fun though!

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