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post #1 of 16 (permalink) Old 02-17-2012, 09:03 PM Thread Starter
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Unhappy Starter Clutch

Has anybody had problems with the starter clutch? My husband's 2011 XC wouldn't start and he thought originally it was the starter but he had it tested at the dealers and it's OK. My husband thinks it is the starter clutch because it seems "seized" and slightly off-centered. I haven't had any problems with my 2010 XC but am wondering if this is an engineering weakness. The clutch doesn't look like it has much heft for the amount of starting torque this big engine has. I'm also wondering if this might be a warranty item. The bike has less than 3,000 miles on it. (He bought the bike used so no original owner's warranty.)
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Hope it isn't the starter clutch but if it is at least it's a cheaper fix than a starter. By any chance did he or has he used the throttle while trying to get the bike started? Coming from a V-Star owner I can tell you that practice has taken out so many starter clutches that it's tough to find anyone that has one in stock.

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Has anybody had problems with the starter clutch? My husband's 2011 XC wouldn't start and he thought originally it was the starter but he had it tested at the dealers and it's OK. My husband thinks it is the starter clutch because it seems "seized" and slightly off-centered. I haven't had any problems with my 2010 XC but am wondering if this is an engineering weakness. The clutch doesn't look like it has much heft for the amount of starting torque this big engine has. I'm also wondering if this might be a warranty item. The bike has less than 3,000 miles on it. (He bought the bike used so no original owner's warranty.)
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Has anybody had problems with the starter clutch? My husband's 2011 XC wouldn't start and he thought originally it was the starter but he had it tested at the dealers and it's OK. My husband thinks it is the starter clutch because it seems "seized" and slightly off-centered. I haven't had any problems with my 2010 XC but am wondering if this is an engineering weakness. The clutch doesn't look like it has much heft for the amount of starting torque this big engine has. I'm also wondering if this might be a warranty item. The bike has less than 3,000 miles on it. (He bought the bike used so no original owner's warranty.)
Silly as this sounds check your battery connection and see if there tight.
You really haven't told us much other then it didn't start so I'm just guessing mind you.

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I normally try to stay out of my husband's way when he's wrenching but if I understood him correctly, he could see the starter spinning (he had both sides open), but the starter clutch did not engage. Also, after taking the clutch out and holding it, it does not move. The book said it should spin in one direction and not the other (that may not be right, but I know he said it should move). Also, upon very close scrutiny it appears that some of the "knuckles" are at different angles and that on one side these knuckles can be moved in and out, but 180 degrees away the knuckles are stuck in place. He's got a new one ordered and along with some o-rings it's going to cost about $100. He's planning on calling Victory Monday about any warranty, but after reading their warranty on-line I think I need to warn him to "be nice"! He'll be nervous next time he rides, regardless of this fixes it or it needs something additional and I hope he can get over that because he's already threatening to go back to HD.
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He already has taken parts off the bike and has parts ordered? If this is the case why add stress by caling Victory and arguing warranty since there's a pretty good chance he just voided it?

As mentioned early using the throttle while starting the bike is what most likely caused the problem and you description of the condition of the starter clutch pretty much shows that is what happened.

IMHO replace the parts and change whatever practice that may have caused the problem and don't say a word to Victory. This way he can get the bike back on the road and not officially void the warranty.

Of course if he prefers to go back to Harley that's fine but he should keep in mind the Harleys break too and Harley doesn't jump in to fix their problems either. They had timing chain tensioner and swingarm problems for years that they did nothing about other than hope the owners traded their bikes in before the tensioners broke and fragged the engines or the faulty swingarms made them crash.

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Your husband has screwed him self. Victory or Harley or and others will not warranty parts or work done by any one other then a factory trained personal.
Its a shame he didn't pursue it more with your dealer.
If your husband thinks it would be different with a Harley I have a bridge to sell him.

It does sound like the clutch was bad but he went about it all in the wrong way. Eat your $100 and start riding and think twice before you pull your wrenches out again.

I have forty years experience dealing with Harley and what they will and will not do.

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The new starter clutch fixed the problem. The dealer said "I won't tell if you don't tell", so I guess whatever warranty existed still exists. I usually get a guilty conscious about things like this, but their mechanic had told my husband that the clutch wasn't the problem and to put it back in the bike. I think we'll be going to a different dealer for service. (After reading Victory's warranty, it doesn't sound like it would cover much of anything short of a certifiable quality issue. Typical of any warranty these days.) Out of curiosity my husband slammed the old clutch on the work bench a half dozen times and it finally broke free. He's also found out how to start these cold blooded beasts without blipping the throttle while starting. This worked on both our Cross Country bikes: Before touching the key, twist the throttle 2 times and then start as usual....they both fired right up It was in the 30's overnight but warned up and we took a 155 mile ride yesterday-went the Park City (KS) Chill. Fantastic to get out of town on two wheels in February!

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Glad to see the replacement worked and that a solution to "blipping" was found. Twisting the throttle a couple of times before hitting the starter button does help and if it's being really stubborn trying turning the ignition on and off a few times. Every time you turn on the ignition the fuel pump is primed (you should hear a click/whirl noise); priming it twice won't hurt it and ensures the fuel is all the way to your injectors.

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Unless this guy is all wet, there is no "clutch" on a Victory starter. Not saying he's right and your wrong but it does leave me baffled a little as to this clutch thing.

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