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post #1 of 13 (permalink) Old 08-14-2014, 02:47 PM Thread Starter
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Question Clutch cables ....arghh...

So, first off, I'm not trying to beat a clearly lame horse (it's not dead, yet, really).

I have a question: at this point I'm soooo done replacing cables with factory cables. I have a sav-ur-ride I can put on it to get it home- I was out to lunch when it snapped, and was less than a mile away from work, so I limped back to work speed shifting/coasting as much as possible.

This is the FOURTH cable to break in 7,000 miles. Yes I've kept her lubed, no there are no burrs, yes, I've polished the trans-catch to make sure. Twice it broke at the lever, and I could see where the cable rubs ever-so-slightly. After the second one broke, I've kept that area well lubed, and it doesn't show as much wear, but I'm always nervous about it just snapping. The last two, the pin just popped off the end at the transmission. No wear, just clean snapped. The third time (first at the tranny), I gave the lever just a little more slack (about a mm lever of lever pull) just to make sure there was no tension on the cable when disengaged. I got nothin' on this last break.

My question is a two parter: 1.) Does an easy-pull actually reduce stress on the cable, and will that extend the life? Or does it simply transfer the stress from the lever to the cable? 2.) Is a hydraulic clutch going to help at all? If the end is breaking off the bottom of the cable, might it still break off from the hydro-puller?

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I have the hydro clutch. I don't believe they have the same weaknesses as the cables.



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I sure hope Victory is paying attention to all of us that are unhappy with the clutch cable. I am happy to see that they now offer a hydraulic kit for the XCT and hope it will become standard on new models.

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You should have a 1/8" play at the lever. No more No less
Sorry but if you have broke that many cables your doing something wrong.
Save your ride cable i for when yours breaks it only gets you home does nothing special

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An ez pull DOES reduce tension on the cable by increasing the mechanical advantage the cable (and therefore the lever) has over the clutch shaft in the transmission. That doesn't mean it will fix your issue though. I tend to agree with VJ though, 3 cables in 7k sounds like user error to me. Do you ride the clutch a lot? Keep the lever pulled in at stops? Tend to be abrupt or snappy with the lever? Ride in dirty/dusty areas? Do a lot of stop and go commuting?

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You should have a 1/8" play at the lever. No more No less
Sorry but if you have broke that many cables your doing something wrong.
Save your ride cable i for when yours breaks it only gets you home does nothing special
Victory Manual states .5-1.5mm (.020"-.060")
1.58mm= 1/16"
Police vid states 1/8" = 3mm

As I'm running an Easyclutch and adjustment is critical I set mine at 2mm which is a bit more than Vic specs. and a bit less than cops.
Easily checked using a 2mm allen key between the lower facing on the clutch lever housing and the bottom of the cable outer when pulled out by hand clear of the lever.
I clean and lube and check mine twice as often as specified

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I've been riding since I was 10, starting on dirt, graduated to a rice burner for my first street bike, bored with it fairly quickly. Been on vtwins ever since. So, in just under 30 years riding, I can't say I've ever had a problem with clutches or cables. Now, I'll fully admit I could still be the problem, but I doubt it.

I had the play at 1 mm before (figured middle of the spec was ideal), made it 2 mm on this last cable. I do keep a couple sav's, just for this reason.

Honestly, my riding style generally only had my hand on the clutch from stop-to-first, first to second, and downshifting as necessary. 3-6 is usually speed shifting. Can't imagine that would cause problems... I'd think that would help.
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How much play up and down in lever close to cable. That might be where your problem is.
Your owners book will tell you how much play you should have. If you adjust it correctly it might change you frication point and that you will have to learn to live with

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Where does everyone get the Sav Ur Ride? I better get one for a little insurance.

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