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2012 hardball, 454 miles, was [email protected] mph (1900-2100 rpm) shifted up to 5Th and bike stalled. ( i don't beleive i ever let clutch out, but cant remember 100%) I held in the clutch hit the starter she started back up, down shifted to 4Th and she rode as if nothing happened. there was no skipping, sputter, wheel hop, backfire nothing, it just died. I pulled into a parking lot and couldn't see any obvious problems, so i started it back up and came home. She rode home just fine. Anyone have any clues? I will be taking it back to the dealer tomorrow.

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2012 hardball, 454 miles, was [email protected] mph (1900-2100 rpm) shifted up to 5Th and bike stalled. ( i don't beleive i ever let clutch out, but cant remember 100%) I held in the clutch hit the starter she started back up, down shifted to 4Th and she rode as if nothing happened. there was no skipping, sputter, wheel hop, backfire nothing, it just died. I pulled into a parking lot and couldn't see any obvious problems, so i started it back up and came home. She rode home just fine. Anyone have any clues? I will be taking it back to the dealer tomorrow.
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thanks a lot, i was able to get 1/8-1/4 turn on both sides of the battery, not sure if that was considered loose, but your logic seemed to work, took it out for a few miles after that got on it not to hard but up to 5th anyway. thanks again!!! I almost lost my burrito sauce when that happened earlier

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i called the dealer today and explained what happend and the service manager told me I was "dogging" the engine. He said i should be in third gear at 40 mph, I rode today and tested his theory the bike was at 40 mph, and bouncing from 2450-2500 rpms, is that a good rpm range for that speed? for some reason i want to be in forth at 40-50 mph, he also said i should shift every 15 mph, but the manual says every 10? I guess im just looking for some other opinions...

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Accelerating at from under 2200 rpm (some say 2500) will cause bogging and bogging is bad. You should drop 500-600 rpm on shifts so try shifting at 2700-2800 rpm (or 3000-3100 using the 2500 rpm logic).

Just out of curiousity; you ride a Hard Ball - how were you carrying burrito sauce? You have bags that you could have used...

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Accelerating at from under 2200 rpm (some say 2500) will cause bogging and bogging is bad. You should drop 500-600 rpm on shifts so try shifting at 2700-2800 rpm (or 3000-3100 using the 2500 rpm logic).

Just out of curiousity; you ride a Hard Ball - how were you carrying burrito sauce? You have bags that you could have used...
Thanks for the advice, it just seems the engine is whining to be shifted before that but I'll give it a go, and as far as the sauce it was an attempt at humor, about almost poopin my britches! it scared me

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I shift at the speeds in the manual unless I'm in a hurry, which is most of the time.
I had the shut off thing happen once. In trying to figure out what happened, I think I hit the kill switch by accident. It never happened after that.
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Also if you look at the mileage you motor is not broke in yet, it is still real tight. Seems like after 10,000 miles they will loosen up a little. V-twins don't like low RPM lugging.
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Thanks for the advice, it just seems the engine is whining to be shifted before that but I'll give it a go, and as far as the sauce it was an attempt at humor, about almost poopin my britches! it scared me
I think you may be trying to be a bit too gentle with your new bike. Not a bad thing with a new motor, but at some point you need to wind it out a bit. The "whining to be shifted" is probably based more on topping out at your throttle position than the engine itself needing to be shifted.

Just to give you some perspective, a 5-speed transmission on a Harley 88B engine will normally run at around 3200 to 3400 at highway speeds all day long. One of the key advantages of an overhead cam engine over a pushrod system like Harleys is you can run the engine at higher RPM's. On my High Ball I'm barely touching 3,000 rpm at 70-80 mph, so you clearly have a LOT more headroom RPM-wise on this motor than you're using. Feel free to use it.

Personally, I never shift into 6th gear until I'm around 70 mph.

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I had that happen a few times on my '09 Kingpin. Not at the speed you were going, but when I was down shifting coming to a stop. At first I thought I didn't pull in the clutch all the way, but I was careful to pay attention and it happened again. The dealer couldn't find anything and it hasn't happened for a while. It does scare the p**p out of you if it happens at the wrong time!

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