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OK, I was just wondering about this 3rd gear failure on the v92 and
am just trying to understand why it's a death sentence for the whole engine? what exactly happens to the trans when this happens?

I see some people are installing a newer e bay engine. For what these bikes are selling for is it really worth spending 2 grand on a engine?
Does anyone know how many v92s where built and how many v92s
had this issue? It just seems to me that victory would have to recall these bikes for free repairs under the lemon law.
just one more thing, If gears and shafts are not available why couldn't a machine shop make the parts. It's gotta be cheaper than a engine replacement, Wouldn't it?
Sorry for all the questions, Just trying to understand this thing and
hope like hell it don't happen to me!

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OK, I was just wondering about this 3rd gear failure on the v92 and
am just trying to understand why it's a death sentence for the whole engine? what exactly happens to the trans when this happens?

I see some people are installing a newer e bay engine. For what these bikes are selling for is it really worth spending 2 grand on a engine?
Does anyone know how many v92s where built and how many v92s
had this issue? It just seems to me that victory would have to recall these bikes for free repairs under the lemon law.
just one more thing, If gears and shafts are not available why couldn't a machine shop make the parts. It's gotta be cheaper than a engine replacement, Wouldn't it?
Sorry for all the questions, Just trying to understand this thing and
hope like hell it don't happen to me!
What year is yours?

The '99s have had a well document problematic transmission, but Victory had a recall on them and offered a free fix. Are you the original owner? If you're not the original owner, and don't know if the recall update was done on it, you can call your local Vic dealer and have them look it up for you based on your VIN number.

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What year is yours?

The '99s have had a well document problematic transmission, but Victory had a recall on them and offered a free fix. Are you the original owner? If you're not the original owner, and don't know if the recall update was done on it, you can call your local Vic dealer and have them look it up for you based on your VIN number.
+1 on the contacting dealer. I got some work done right after I picked mine up this spring.
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I am not the original owner. Don't have a clue on how many people
owned this bike. I have already been to the dealer and this bike was brought in for some recall items like speed censer,fuel pump, rear
pulley bolts but nothing on the transmission. I searched the web and
really found nothing on a transmission recall on this issue. found a page that listed all the recalls for a 99 and nothing on the trans.
from all the research i have done if a owner had this problem they had to pay for the repairs. Victory would not fix it for free. I don't get it
if this was a problem on a car they would recall this in a heat beat!
how did victory get away with this! someone could get killed from this.
I am really surprised a class action suit hasn't been filed. Below is a
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http://www.motorcyclistonline.com/mo.../victory/v92c/

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Victory offered to do the fix to the affected '99 model bikes. However, they were not able to force owners to bring their bikes in for the free fix.

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I just cant find any evidence of this recall. Just complaints to the
NTSB. I guess it don't matter now, Recalls are only good for ten
years. I'm not trying to put victory down, I really like this bike.But
it's like a cloud hanging over me. Will it happen, when? I just don't
know. What would happen if it locked up at 60 MPH on the highway?
So far it shows no sign of having this issue. still Scary!
Thanks for your reply.

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I don't think there actually was a formal recall done on the '99 transmissions - that would've cost Vic a ton of cash, and I think their lawyers got USDOT to settle for an announced "upgrade" kit which essentially was a complete '03-'05 5 speed tranny offered at a reduced price with Vic picking up half of the labor. This offer expired in late '03 or early '04, I think - just before I bought my '99, as it turns out.

Your options are to:
1 - buy a replacement tranny kit from Victory
2 - swap in an '03-'05 Freedom engine
3 - find a defunct '03-05 Freedom engine with good tranny to cannibalize.

Personally, I'd just ride it easy and plan on swapping in a Freedom engine if/when the tranny goes out. Keep in mind that it's not a 100% certainty that it will go out - there are documented instances of original '99 trannies going over 100K miles. Also, from what I've heard, they do give warning before failing entirely - popping out of gear, false neutrals, etc. - so you'd probably notice problems before it got to the point of locking up at speed.

If it does go out, it's not necessarily a death sentence for the engine - options 1 (new tranny from Vic) or 3 (cannibalize a tranny from a later engine) would keep the existing engine.

The most common & pragmatic fix is to swap in the Freedom engine; if you go that route and buy a used engine, pay very careful attention to the motor mount on the front head - a big enough side loading (from an accident bending the front end, for example) can crack the head, which won't be noticed until firing up the engine & running it for a little while.

Mine never got to the point of tranny problems; it was sidelined for other issues, and I solved the problem by getting an engine from Rylan Vos... Power upgrade and solid tranny all at once.

'99s can be a challenge, since it was the first year and many details were changed for '00 - seat fitment, for example - so you will need to keep that in mind. Nevertheless, I still like mine a lot, and have no regrets - I think they have character and are unique enough that you won't see many of them out there.

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Thanks a lot for responding and clearing up the picture on this.
I to like these cruisers and love riding it. It would be great if
this bike is one of those 100,000 mile bikes. I,m a putter and not
hard on the bike at all.

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