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post #1 of 23 (permalink) Old 01-28-2013, 12:04 PM Thread Starter
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Can't seem to get my '05 TC to start, turns over(I keep a tender on the batt) seems to get gas, just won't kick off like it used to. Tried new plugs like local mechanic said, still no luck. Is there something else to try? Had the same problem a couple of weekends ago, finally got it started, rode it some that day and the following two days to work, then it wouldn't start again. Installed the new plugs, nothing. It acts like it almost wants to go a couple of times but, it does not.

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Might be fuel pump. Do a presure test on it
The Vick shop in Iowa might be able to re build it if thats the problem.
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I can hear what I assume is the fuel pump whirring when I turn the key on, same as it has always done ever since I have had the bike.

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Bo2Beaux you get it running yet? If not, just looking for some more details of what you got such as almost starts but not quite, how long after it was running those two days did it sit before trying again. How did it run during those two days, Rich? Sputters?

Have you checked:
Battery terminals
Fuel pressure (previously mentioned), if no fuel pressure gauge have you followed dry tank priming procedure?
Cleaned TB's at any point?
Checked air filter (does it have the K&N or paper) or air box for obstruction.

When trying to start are you usings the fast idle only (about 1/2 with bars turned to left) not touching the throttle.

Just a few to get things started again. Let us know... Good luck

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Hi Tim,
thanks for the suggestions. Haven't tried to start in a couple of days as I have been busy in the evenings when I come home.
After installing new spark plugs as mechanic suggested, when I tried to crank it the battery was so weak it would not go, I am hoping that by doing that, it did not foul the plugs.
My normal start procedure is:
1, turn the key on & let the fuel pump stop,
2. pump the throttle twice
3. press the starter-and usually it starts,
on cold mornings I will use the fast idle.
sometimes it will shut off & I have to start again,
not using the throttle but leaving the F idle as it is.

After riding for a couple of days it was three or four days before I tried to start again, was going to take it to the shop to get the flashing "check engine" reset on the speedo.

I keep a tender on the batt so it is strong & turns over very well, just does not fire up.
just hit the starter for a couple of seconds at a time, it goes, very weakly for a couple of strokes, then dies again, might be the fuel pump or I assume there is a fuel filter, could be clogged.
When it ran for those couple of days, it seemed to run fine. I rode to work & back those couple of days so it was only for 10 miles or so but had no problems.

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Twisting the throttle a couple time before starting does more harm then good. EFI bikes don't need that.
Cause you can here the fuel pump prim doesn't mean its sending fuel.
If you pull your plugs and there wet then its send fuel. Bike will not start with wet plugs.
How old is your battery there only good for three to four years in your bike. Even with full charge the battery might not be and good giving you enough power to really spin the bike over.

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Will try it w/out doing throttle.

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Hi Tim,
thanks for the suggestions. Haven't tried to start in a couple of days as I have been busy in the evenings when I come home.
After installing new spark plugs as mechanic suggested, when I tried to crank it the battery was so weak it would not go, I am hoping that by doing that, it did not foul the plugs.
My normal start procedure is:
1, turn the key on & let the fuel pump stop,
2. pump the throttle twice
3. press the starter-and usually it starts,
on cold mornings I will use the fast idle.
sometimes it will shut off & I have to start again,
not using the throttle but leaving the F idle as it is.

After riding for a couple of days it was three or four days before I tried to start again, was going to take it to the shop to get the flashing "check engine" reset on the speedo.

I keep a tender on the batt so it is strong & turns over very well, just does not fire up.
just hit the starter for a couple of seconds at a time, it goes, very weakly for a couple of strokes, then dies again, might be the fuel pump or I assume there is a fuel filter, could be clogged.
When it ran for those couple of days, it seemed to run fine. I rode to work & back those couple of days so it was only for 10 miles or so but had no problems.
Ok, now we got a little more info like the check engine flashing. When did that start? Lets start at the simple things first:
- Check your battery terminals for being clean and tight. EFI does NOT like loose or dirty battery. I doubt this is it because you said you got a strong start on it, just not continuing to run. Rule it out none the less.
- From a cold start, handle bars turned to the left (yes, it matters), push your fast idle up to about 1/2 and try to start. Do not blip the throttle if it does, just use the fast idle to get it up to about 1600-1800 RPMs for 15-20 seconds the bring it down to about 1400. This forces the oil to where you need it so don't swet the higher RPMs. No BLIPPING... lol... Let her warm up good.
- Already said about checking the air filter and intake screen. From what I can see looks like you still got the stock filter box. How many miles on your bike and how long since you cleaned the throttle bodies. You would be suprised how much easier starting it is once cleaned.
- Look on the right side of the throttle bodies kinda hidden up towards the tank near the upper portion of the TB's and you should should see a rubber vacum cap (one each) on each of the TB's. Being an 05, good chance those have dry rotted and maybe even come off. That could be a contributer.
- If you can check your fuel pump pressure, should be about 49psi


? Have you ever run seafoam or some type of cleaner down it?
? When did flashing check engine start?
? Last time you got gas and did you use a stabilizer if it was stored more than 30 days?

Post your results and lets see if we cant get you back up and running. I have only seen a couple stumpers that we couldnt get started around here. Talk to you soon and good luck

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Hi Tim,
Am getting the bike towed to the dealer this afternoon. I have had the bike since May of last year, the check engine has been flashing since I got it but does not affect running. Just got it back from the dealer who did a full check of everything. Had to get a new battery from them in May when I got home with the bike. The ONLY thing I can think of is that I did stop on that second day and filled up w/gas at a Shell station near the house. Bad gas? don't know, it is only a mile or less from the house so after that is when I parked it & then wouldn't start a couple of days later.
I did try to start the way you suggested just now but still no luck.
Will see what the dealer finds out.
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