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Ok, so here is the run down...... it's a long one

I have an 01 v92c. I bought this bike from a guy that claims to be a mechanic. I consider myself a mechanic, however I used to work on cars, and then semis.

The guy I bought the bike from had told me he got it from a vet that could no longer walk, let alone ride. He told me the bike had been sitting for 2 years. He said it had a hiccup at higher speeds. I did not test drive the bike, but i heard it run and idle for a few minutes. On the ride home(30 miles), it started to die on many many occasions. Long story short it took me about 3 hours to get home. I knew little about victory's and due to the lack of information I went straight in to the obvious problems. I replaced the fuel pump, which i was able to find at autozone as well as the filter. The bike still had the same pressure loss issues when it got hot(fuel pressure would drop almost to nothing). After a few long night I finally figured out about the strainers inside the tank. I pulled those, flushed the rest of the system and replaced the hoses coming off the tank and the T.

Rode the bike to and from work twice. The final time the line from the T to the fuel pump broke. While pushing the bike 2 miles it fell over(we don't have sidewalks in houston). It landed on the highway bars in the grass. Just before I got home someone offered to help me. He gave me some gas, and since my battery was dead from cranking he gave me a jump start. The bike ran like it was sucking in air or the timing was off. Keep in mind it ran superb prior to this night.

After I got home, i replaced all the fuel lines, acid washed the tank, again replaced the fuel pump and filter. The bike runs but only with plenty of throttle and its blowing smoke like the mixture or timing is off horribly.

So, a quick recap.... Before it ran out of gas and before the jumpstart, the bike ran great. New pump, new tcs, new filter.

Since the incident, new pump, new filter, checked and cleaned the ground cable, tcs is good, new plugs, good spark, new leads on the fuel pump, new battery.

Here is where I have the problem, I tested the ohms, and output voltage on the cps. Both seemed good, but since the timing seems to be off I called the local dealership to order one since they are fairly cheap compared to a new ecm.... he told me that the cps either works or doesn't, it must be the injectors are clogged. Ok, so i pulled everything apart and cleaned those. Bike still runs like the timing is off.

Could it be the cps is going bad? I have done and tested or replaced everything I can possibly think of. The cps is my last hope before i consider internal engine problems.

One more thing, the night the bike crapped out, i started it the next day, and for a half a second it ran just fine and then started back with the timing issue.
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And one more thing, if anyone wants the aftermarket fuel pump or fuel filter part number let me know.
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And one more thing, if anyone wants the aftermarket fuel pump or fuel filter part number let me know.
Fuel pump is made by airtex master. Sold at autozone, 1 yr warranty. $83.00. E2000 is the part number.

I will have to double check on the fuel filter when I get a chance to head back to autozone.
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Ok, so here is the run down...... it's a long one

I have an 01 v92c. I bought this bike from a guy that claims to be a mechanic. I consider myself a mechanic, however I used to work on cars, and then semis.

The guy I bought the bike from had told me he got it from a vet that could no longer walk, let alone ride. He told me the bike had been sitting for 2 years. He said it had a hiccup at higher speeds. I did not test drive the bike, but i heard it run and idle for a few minutes. On the ride home(30 miles), it started to die on many many occasions. Long story short it took me about 3 hours to get home. I knew little about victory's and due to the lack of information I went straight in to the obvious problems. I replaced the fuel pump, which i was able to find at autozone as well as the filter. The bike still had the same pressure loss issues when it got hot(fuel pressure would drop almost to nothing). After a few long night I finally figured out about the strainers inside the tank. I pulled those, flushed the rest of the system and replaced the hoses coming off the tank and the T.

Rode the bike to and from work twice. The final time the line from the T to the fuel pump broke. While pushing the bike 2 miles it fell over(we don't have sidewalks in houston). It landed on the highway bars in the grass. Just before I got home someone offered to help me. He gave me some gas, and since my battery was dead from cranking he gave me a jump start. The bike ran like it was sucking in air or the timing was off. Keep in mind it ran superb prior to this night.

After I got home, i replaced all the fuel lines, acid washed the tank, again replaced the fuel pump and filter. The bike runs but only with plenty of throttle and its blowing smoke like the mixture or timing is off horribly.

So, a quick recap.... Before it ran out of gas and before the jumpstart, the bike ran great. New pump, new tcs, new filter.

Since the incident, new pump, new filter, checked and cleaned the ground cable, tcs is good, new plugs, good spark, new leads on the fuel pump, new battery.

Here is where I have the problem, I tested the ohms, and output voltage on the cps. Both seemed good, but since the timing seems to be off I called the local dealership to order one since they are fairly cheap compared to a new ecm.... he told me that the cps either works or doesn't, it must be the injectors are clogged. Ok, so i pulled everything apart and cleaned those. Bike still runs like the timing is off.

Could it be the cps is going bad? I have done and tested or replaced everything I can possibly think of. The cps is my last hope before i consider internal engine problems.

One more thing, the night the bike crapped out, i started it the next day, and for a half a second it ran just fine and then started back with the timing issue.
Was the TPS reset? By the way, never jump the bike again, even though it seems that you've gotten away with it this one time.

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It was reset when first installed. I know not to jump a bike but still a mile from home and having pushed this thing 2 mile in the grass already I just didn't care.

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Maybe the TPS setting is off. I wonder if it may have a torn throttle body adapter. That is a common problem too.Although a cracked throttle body adapter should make it run lean.Have you cleaned the throttle bodies?That will make it run rich and run rough eventually fouling plugs. Is your air filter clean?

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Clean air filter clean throttle bodies. There is nothing that could possibly be wrong with the fuel system from what I can tell. Keep in mind, the bike ran great until it ran out of fuel. It fell over on it's side. I am leaning on the cps however since everything is new and the bike hardly runs.

One extra note I installed a power commander before I had this issue. The power commander will not work properly unless the tps is working properly. I have disconnected it for diagnostic reasons however.

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By the way, never jump the bike again.
You can jump a bike off a car all you want... just DON'T START THE CAR. Use the battery power only.

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It was reset when first installed.
I would reset it again. Here are the step by step instructions if you decide to do it: https://www.victoryforums.com/showthread.php?t=5448.

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I'm not sure on the 01 if it has a MAF sensor on the filter housing or not but almost sounds like contaminated sensor. If it tipped may e then it happened. Just a thoight

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