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post #1 of 43 (permalink) Old 03-15-2013, 08:54 AM Thread Starter
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Default Handle Bar Speaker kit for Jackpots

Has anyone added these to your bike? I am not interested in adding a windshield at this time. I looked at the Kurakyn sound of mucsic at JP Cycles in daytona and have since found a couple others like http://motorcycletunes.com/ and http://www.cyclesounds.com/cruiser/h...rs/metric.html

I wanted to get feedback from you all?
Just want something that I can play my ipod thru.

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i'm surprsed there hasn't been any feedback about this. I find myself cruisin by myself a lot and wish I could listen to some tunes (probably the reason my next bike will be a CC). I was looking at some pioneer speakers with amp. 300w should be loud enough to hear at highway speeds (maybe???)

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Keep in mind fellas, when looking at watts and advertised watts, you're looking at a lie. Sort of. All companies advertise in PEAK watts which does nothing for you. That rating means that it could take a very brief burp of that amount. RMS wattage is what you're looking for. RMS is the continual wattage the component is rated for meaning it can operate at that level continuously. You'll see systems advertised on Amazon and Ebay with 700 watts, 1,000 watts etc and it's bull. They will put out about 20 RMS watts. At 70 mph going down the highway, you might here a little twang. I was sold on cycle sounds and actually talked to the rep on the phone. I asked him what the RMS watts are on the 2.5" system and he told me the amp puts out 28 RMS watts and you won't find it advertised. That's not much fellas. I'm sure its top shelf quality and will last for years, but will you hear it at 70 mph +?? I personally had my doubts. I did further research found J&M system puts out 40 watts RMS per channel (2.5"), unique cycle sounds puts out 50 watts RMS per channel using 4" Pioneer and Motorcycle Tunes puts out 100 watts RMS per channel and uses 4" JVC speakers with an option to upgrade to Polk Audio for an additional $50.

About 3 hours ago I purchased the 700 watt motorcycle tunes package (100 watts RMS X 2) with the Polk Audio upgrade. Ordered 1.25" chrome clamps and I'll mount on my highway bars so I don't clutter my handle bars with 4" speakers.

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You also want to look at the frequency response rating of the speakers. Example: 50hz - 25khz. This is the frequency of which the speaker can handle. The high pitch sounds like symbols, high hats, bottom guitar strings, will produce a hz in the thousands. The deep notes, bass guitar, bass drum will produce hz in the low hundreds on down to low double digits. If the speakers you buy has a frequency response of 125hz - 24khz, your speakers will handle the high notes well but will distort with the bass and you'll get very little bass sound from the speaker. Usually, the larger the speaker the lower the hz it can handle. a 2" speaker will not take 25hz. It will be like having the treble cranked up.

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Default great info Rebel

And I totally agree with the RMS, its the key!!
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http://www.motorcyclepartsareus.com/PROD/218260.html Fm radio with the speakers and a usb hook up time and temperature.

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I was just reading about the 2013 Honda Goldwing F6B, which comes stock with a stereo mounted in the fairing, like a XC...

Biggest gripe was that you couldnt hear the stereo over 30-35mph. If a stock stereo cant be heard, I seriously doubt that you are going to get any kind of quality sounds out of what youre looking at... Especially if you dont have a windshield - the wind noise alone will cancel out anything coming from the speakers. If you have pipes, forget it!

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I seriously doubt that you are going to get any kind of quality sounds out of what youre looking at...
I'm not sure I'd agree with the statement. It all comes down to power. I'd bet a weeks wage (if I was a gambler) that I could put a set of speakers on a bike that you could hear next to a jet engine. Given a large enough amplifier and a high enough rated speaker, it can be done. Naturally, if you buy one of these very common and inexpensive handlebar systems or even fairing mounted system, you're only looking at around 25-40 TRUE watts per speaker. That may not be enough to hear them at highway speeds. Now if you had 300 TRUE watts per speaker I'd garantee you could blow your eardrums out even at highway speeds.
It all comes down to RMS watts. They need to be considerably high. I've read several reviews of motorcycletunes.com 700 watt, 800 watt package (200 RMS and 300 RMS) that were mounted on HDs with loud pipes and they claim the music sounds very good at 80+ mph. Those are powerful and a fairly large 4" speaker so you can't tuck it away in a corner on your bike. The RMS power is going to come at a cost of size.

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I would tend to agree with Rebel. I have had aftermarket stereos in EVERY car i've owned since 16 and i'm now 38. to the point some were show quality systems. the problem i always suspected is where are you giong to find a place for an amp that can put out that kind of wattage? Especially on a JP? I have done zero research on this but i just don't think that i could find an amp that would put out the wattage needed and small enough to hide w/o bags. as big as this headlight is i still doubt anything would fit.

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Yep, size and placement is the issue. These little 1.5" x 3" amps are not putting out 200 RMS watts. Most as noted above, are putting out 20-40 watts RMS for each of the 2 channels. The system I just purchased has 200 RMS watts (100 per channel) but the amp is 4"x3" I don't think you'll fit that in the headlight assembly and you don't want it under the tank due to the heat. The best place for it would probably be on the frame right there with the horn so it gets air cooled as you ride. You'd deffinately want to make sure the amp is water proof though which the one I purchased is.

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