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post #1 of 10 (permalink) Old 03-17-2013, 02:02 PM Thread Starter
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Any recommends for aftermarket rear pulleys? I want to replace the stock one in an attempt to fix the "belt noise" that I've been chasing for the past 3 years.... Tired of the bar of soap treatment and numerous alignments and belt adjustments...

Curious to know if anyone has found a really good quality aftermarket pulley. I have a black 08 Jackpot with Stingray wheels.

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buywitchdoctors.com has a nice assortment for around $500

victoryonly.com has them for around $550

Both places have good quality parts. I had my pulley replaced under warranty so I can't personally speak to the quality of either of these other pulleys, I've bought other items and both seem to sell good quality merchandise. I wouldn't hesitate at all buying one from either.

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what makes you think a new pulley will take the noise a way.

Right side adjuster is for belt tension and left side is for alignment.

You want the belt to just come away from the inside flange and lock it down

you want page 96 http://cdn.polarisindustries.com/pol...9921249r01.pdf

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I'm not sure what the condition of the OPs pulley is, I've not seen it. Victory has put out a lot of bad pulleys and installed them on our bikes. I had a similar issue. From day 1, still in the dealer parking lot, I heard belt noise. I mentioned it to dealer on the 500 mi inspection. Told him I though it would break in (never had belt drive before). They said, all is good, it'll break in, never adjusted it. I ended up adjusting it myself a few days later. It was good for a while. A few hundred miles later I had to adjust it again and agian and again. I put it on the bike stand, put it in 1st and let it idle. I could see the belt walking back and forth. Ah ha! that's an issue. I took it back to the dealer, the did the same thing I did and told me "yep, you got one of them bad pulleys the manufacturer sent out" They replaced it under warranty and all is good now.

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what makes you think a new pulley will take the noise a way.

Right side adjuster is for belt tension and left side is for alignment.

You want the belt to just come away from the inside flange and lock it down

you want page 96 http://cdn.polarisindustries.com/pol...9921249r01.pdf
Can't say for sure a new pulley will fix the noise but it's been like that since day one and I'm just tired of all the 'tweaking' and not getting anywhere... I've taken it in a bunch of times to different dealers and they always tell me that they fixed it (alignment, belt too loose or too tight) but it always comes back! Running a bar of soap along the belt is the only solution I have found that works so far. And that only lasts so long (until I hit rain or wash the bike... ).

Worst case scenario it's a good excuse to buy nice aftermarket pulley to match the Stingray wheels! If that doesn't help then I guess I'm back to square one!

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I would bet that you do have a bad pulley.

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Belt noise is like wind noise. It's a problem of the brand you ride only because you are riding that brand when it happens.
Yep, there are brands that never seem to have belt noise probs, shaft drives mostly. More times than not though, any belt drive system can squeal but some to a smaller degree than the brands that seem prone to it.
Guys swear it's alignment and mostly they are wrong. By the time somebody is looking at parts swaps they can do alignment in their sleep. Not saying good alignment isn't the first thing to insure, just saying it rarely affects squeal for very long. I have seen bikes way out of alignment, eating the belt and the pulley wall, making a mountain of dust and no noise.
Sometimes it's geometry. A lowering kit can induce it or aggravate it. It can also mediate it.
Sometimes it's the front pulley. Not so much creating the noise as tweaking the belt travel so that it throws it out of kittyhunkus at the rear pulley.
Sometimes it's the belt. Machine cut teeth on a pulley or molded teeth on a belt? Hmmm.
Sometimes it's the rear pulley. Out of round, warped. That's a big continually moving part on a small machine. A miniscule misalignment, slop in a bolt hole, whatever, bad mojo can create the conditions that result in squeal.
Wear. If one or more factors promote squeal then every revolution is reinforcing that condition. You can arrive at a point where replacing the culprit doesn't cure the issue.
You take an aluminum widget and trim it until it's dead nuts balanced and round as a babys head, but start spinning it and subjecting it to the centrifugal, torque and braking forces present at the rear wheel and it can get stupid. A fiber belt whips around it and at the contact points the stupid in the pulley is skooling the belt to go stupid.
You can lather stuff on the pulley and belt. It's lipstick on a pig but if it kills the noise for a few blessed miles and it makes you happy so be it. Pop can't sanction that because I would spend all my time riding listening for when it starts up again. Sucks.
You can swap parts one at a time. That has at least a 1 in 3 shot at some success but Hey! Casinos make a whole lot of cash giving players better odds than that. I don't go this way but if I did I would replace the belt first with a different brand sporting a different compound.
You can replace the belt and rear pulley together which moves the odds into your favor and shows a lot of faith in the front pulley for no real reason.
You can do a hat trick which is as close to a sure thing as you get. It's a scorched earth fix and you never really understand WTF happened but it has more success than other options. It's also pricier. But it does, like you say give you a chance to do some custom work and if you are inclined it lets you play with RW ratios which is a big time kick in the pants.

OR.. keep smearing snake oil on it like so many do and don't let it ruin your day.

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The fact that Victory produced countless defective pulley's at the factory and never recalled them and the fact that no matter how many times he adjusts his belt and still gets noise, moves the odds heavily toward the rear pulley. I might add when Victory replaced my rear pulley under warranty they also replaced the belt under warranty as well being that there was undue wear on my belt because of the defective pulley.

If your belt is being subjected to abuse and wear for whatever reason, I would think it should be replaced at the time the original problem is fixed. Unless the alignment issue is a new problem, which does not seem to be the case here.

Though it's not really safe practice, you could narrow down the source by putting the bike on a lift, start it, put it in first and let the clutch out. Get behind the bike and watch the pulleys and belt. Again, this is not a safe practice and there is some risk of your bike falling off the lift.

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As I mentioned before it feels like I've done enough 'tweaking' so I figure it's time to try replacing the odd thing. With my luck it will be something else (like the front pulley) and I'll have to live with it no matter what I do!

I really appreciate all the feedback, though. The link to the owner's manual will come in handy (I always seem to misplace mine after using it...). The more things I try the more familiar I become with my bike. Although it can be frustrating at times - troubleshooting is half the fun!

Safe riding!

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long as you brought it up.
Pull front pulley cover and see if the belt has been rubbing on one other casting boss's.
Check front pulley for rust around nut and grab pulley and see if its loose.

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