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At 300 bones I would expect a major difference in how the bike runs. Your experience?

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You have to get it dyno tuned or you'll never feel the difference

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At 300 bones I would expect a major difference in how the bike runs. Your experience?
Get a Maximus or a PowerVision.

On the "is it worth it" question...
The tuner (no matter what tuner) is a means to tune the engine to perform at its best. It is not, by itself, a power producing piece of equipment. What it does, is allow you to tune for performance adders like free flowing air filters/intakes, free flowing exhaust systems, more aggressive cams... you know, things that allow the engine to breathe. Now that it can breathe, it needs fuel mixed in the proper ratio to match that extra air and it needs the ignition timing optimized.

If you think you're going to plug it in and the bike is gonna run great, you're thinking wrong. It's a means to an end.
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If you do go with the PC-V; get it dyno'd or find a tune for your bike set up the same way with the same intake/exhaust, cams, etc. It won't be as good as if you had yours dyno'd but it will be close. Then you can get it dyno'd later if you want.

I can't speak from experience but from what I've read; the Maximus or similar type ECM programmer is pretty good and you don't have a piggy back device in the middle.

Either way you'll need to spend some money to get it near perfect.
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You can buy a PCV which is a piggy-back unit that modifies the signal coming from the ECU, or you can flash the ECU directly with the Power Vision or the Maximus. Hit up @NOEMTZ for all the info on the Maximus, I haven't seen a bad word yet about that unit or the tunes -- and it can be done remotely (he sends you a laptop and make a few runs so he can see/adjust your fueling). I don't know about the Power Vision, but I think that still requires a dyno.



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Once my tuner dialed the fueling in on a dyno it was a night & day difference. You need a fuel tuner of some kind to make any engine upgrades past slip-on mufflers worth it. I've been very happy with the PCV and its worth every penny I spent on it(twice ). Like other's have mentioned there are more tuner options available now that directly map the ECU and the tuning can be done remotely without a dyno.

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Went to VicBaggers the other day and they want $650.00 to do a maximus tune, am I missing something? I mean if I take the bike there (they are about 30 minutes from me) why so much? I already have a PCV, but believe the tune I have isn't all it can be (I think I got a canned tune from JPM in Hopkinsville,Ky) and they only charge $250.00 for a dyno tune.

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Went to VicBaggers the other day and they want $650.00 to do a maximus tune, am I missing something? I mean if I take the bike there (they are about 30 minutes from me) why so much? I already have a PCV, but believe the tune I have isn't all it can be (I think I got a canned tune from JPM in Hopkinsville,Ky) and they only charge $250.00 for a dyno tune.
Maximus tuning cost isn't all that much different to starting from scratch with a DynoJet. The PCV tuner costs $275-300 and a dyno-tune is $250-350. For me its not worth it since I already have a PCV and my dyno tuner will make adjustments to the maps for under $100 if I feel I need them.
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Went to VicBaggers the other day and they want $650.00 to do a maximus tune, am I missing something? I mean if I take the bike there (they are about 30 minutes from me) why so much? I already have a PCV, but believe the tune I have isn't all it can be (I think I got a canned tune from JPM in Hopkinsville,Ky) and they only charge $250.00 for a dyno tune.
$650 is what a License costs plus a full tuning service combined. Not just a simple plug in and wallah everything is tuned. This type of tuning starts from scratch. Including idle. Yes idle. Ryan is doing the tuning there remotely for them.
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Im going with the Maximus system as soon as Ive done the mods on my CrossCountry.
Exhaust, Intake, and drop in VM1 Cams.
Power and Torque over stock costs money.
but once its done Im there.

On the other hand my Vegas already has a PCV and all the mods and has been dyno tumed by the best tuner here.
I couldnt be happier with it.
BUT .. if I was starting on the Vegas now
then Id go the Maximus.
Do your mods before the tune though.

If moneys a problem just leave it stock.
Victorys go pretty good out of the box.

EDIT..Just re read your post and with TorqueTubes and Bassani why havent you already had the thing optimised??
Get it done b4 you get damage from running lean.
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