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I have a 2013 CC with Ness Big Honkers, PCV, Polaris Hi Flow air filter. I run a map from Fuelmoto for this set up. I've also tried the map from Powercommander because they have this exact set up. I still get popping while I shift. I try not to shift below 3K RPM because that may result in a very loud POP. I ordered a Lloydz adjustable timing wheel today because it adjusts the timing below 2500 RPM.
Has anyone else used this wheel with my set up? Did it help?
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Get your bike tuned it's worth every cent and they can do a lot to stop the popping.

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Got a laptop?
Download the Power Commander Software. Plug the bike in, pull up your map...
Reset the zero and WOT throttle points first (directions in the software).
In the Zero Throttle column above 1250 RPM all cells should be at 0 (zero).
Now, in the RPM area where the popping occurs, put a value in the 0-throttle column. Start with 2... if that's not enough go to 4... you can put whatever you want in there above 1500 rpm.

If it pops at 1750 rpm put 2 in 1500, 3 in 1750, and 2 in 2000.... put 10 in if you have to.

Should be shit-simple to tune out.

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I think mine is at 8 zero throttle position from 1250 all the way to 5000 still at zero throttle position.

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I think mine is at 8 zero throttle position from 1250 all the way to 5000 still at zero throttle position.
Not sure why it would be set up like that.

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Thanks for the inputs guys-
I have a table that I made that shows both maps from 0 to 6K RPM. It's matched against 0 to 100% throttle. In both maps the zero throttle position is set to zero meaning no adjustment. At WOT the numbers are negative indicating a reduction in fuel. Both maps have negative numbers at the upper end of throttle position.
Are you guys changing the timing?
half crazy - yes, I have a lap top. I installed all the options including the maps. They both add fuel at 2% so I may try dropping those numbers. Looks like the fuelmoto map is adding more fuel than the Powercommander map. I'll try the power commander map again. I'll post again once I install the timing wheel.
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half crazy - yes, I have a lap top. I installed all the options including the maps. They both add fuel at 2% so I may try dropping those numbers.
I have no idea what you are trying to tell me... or what 2% has to do with what I posted. I was only speaking of 0% throttle.

My maps look like this:

Cylinder 1:


Cylinder 2:

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Not sure why it would be set up like that.
Not sure either I just looked and they are at 9 from 1500-6000 with 1250 at 0 and 1000 at -15. The upper RPMs at 0 really don't matter anyway I bet he just highlighted the entire row and put a number in.

This is both cylinders.
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2015 Suzuki V-Strom DL650 (bought new 4/26/17)
2006 Triumph Rocket III Classic
1/4 turn throttle ring
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VM-1 DR cams
Timing wheel +4
Lloydz high-flow air cleaner
Bassani baffled OEM mufflers
PC-V 118hp 116tq
If it's not broke, make it better

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The important part of what I was saying is that I looked at what you suggested.
At 0% throttle all my numbers are at zero.
At WOT all my numbers are zero or negative.
At this point, I'm just going to wait until my Lloydz adjustable timing gear arrives and get installed
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